Bond rally nearing an end?

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by gharghur2, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. This is my take on the 30yr ... looking for 105 for support on this downtrend
     
    #581     Apr 16, 2006
  2. Careful there, my friend. Statements like that can come back and bite.:D

    Could it be that the steepening in the yield curve we are seeing is just a typical move as the market perceives an end to the rate hike cycle? I see that the Fed chose Good Friday to leak a story to Greg Ip about how there is currently no concensus to tighten beyond 5%.

    Continues to be a great thread btw.
     
    #582     Apr 16, 2006
  3. mcurto

    mcurto

    Yield curve steepenings are also somewhat normal during periods of high long-end corporate supply and Treasury supply as a result of rate-lock hedging needs. Don't forget we had massive corporate supply the last two weeks, especially last week, and have month-end TIPS supply along with the May refunding in plain view. Furthermore, the CMBS market has been quiet, would imagine those deals will pick up again shortly and also weigh upon the market. That being said, based on seasonals, dealers often like to come out of the Refundings with flatteners on, but this may also depend on where the Fed is in their cycle.
     
    #583     Apr 16, 2006
  4. It's something like that in the sense that the market is perceiving that a near end to the rate hike cycle would create inflation. While economic data and Fed comments over the past few weeks indicated that we are nowhere near the end of a rate hike cycle, the bond market was incorporating that information by re-integrating an inflation-risk premium.

    The bond market is now expecting more rate hikes than recently thought:<br><i>The odds of another increase to 5.25 percent by the central bank's Aug. 8 meeting are 100 percent, up from less than 7 percent three weeks ago.</i><br>- Bloomberg. April 16, 2006 11:09 EDT.
     
    #584     Apr 16, 2006
  5. Much appreciated. Thank you.
     
    #585     Apr 16, 2006
  6. ...and honored you gave my name to your chart.
     
    #586     Apr 16, 2006
  7. Of course, it's your chart :)

    Ours is a bit more confusing unless you can read waves ~~~~~
     
    #587     Apr 16, 2006
  8. how much might ZB and ZN be up tonight

    if the eurodollar contract is up 1/3 of 1 % ?

    and is the bounce in the eurodollar from people

    covering shorts in ECBOT exposure if they are closed or from bets on higher oil prices slowing
    down the US economy or ???
     
    #588     Apr 16, 2006
  9. Tough question.

    Expecting the EURO to rally some over the next few weeks to complete a triple top. While Bonds continue to head south.
     
    #589     Apr 16, 2006
  10. Didn't expect half of it to happen in one day though :)
     
    #590     Apr 17, 2006