Bond rally nearing an end?

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by gharghur2, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. It looks like OI on the Mar 106p did not move very much on a net basis. But I assume that convexity hedging was also active as 4.85 was taken out.
     
    #2161     Jan 26, 2007
  2. mcurto

    mcurto

    Yes John. Goldman was actually long around 10,000 on that strike from an old position probably why open interest wasn't up by 50,000. Also had about 20,000 trade outright in the pit from different houses. Flows were so huge in that strike yesterday with 160,000 total trading. I am pretty sure Goldman is short that strike around 30,000. Short those Feb 107 here and as we uptick he is looking pretty good. This could be fun if we print above 106-20 to 21 area.
     
    #2162     Jan 26, 2007
  3. lrito

    lrito

    Hi guys.

    Mcurto, if i understood, you said Goldman is short on 107 puts, is it right?
    These options expire next week is it?

    Thanks, good weekend for all.
     
    #2163     Jan 26, 2007
  4. mcurto

    mcurto

    They were short the Feb 107 straddle (puts and calls) for the last 3 or 4 weeks. They almost were looking very good as we started trading 106-19 as they had bought back most of their short futures hedges around 106-10 or so in the morning (a guess but lots of volume there). My guess is the position wasn't a big loser because they were short the straddle when it had much more premium in it. Their new position from yesterday was the March 106 put vs. futures that they sold. This is definitely a critical turning point for the market and we probably won't consolidate at this level. It is either back up toward 108 in the 10yr or breakout out way below 106 to maybe 104 area.
     
    #2164     Jan 26, 2007
  5. Another reason why this could possibly be a turning point in bonds is the action in the Euro. The last couple of weeks the dollar has moved towards EUR1.285-1.29, but has been met with strong selling that seems to evaporate pretty quickly. It feels like there are huge stops/options down there. If you look at a chart, you can see over the last 3 years that the 1.28 area is very significant for both bulls and bears.

    It would not be good for bonds to see a stronger dollar this year as it would probably help the consumer but hurt corporate balance sheets. Also if an investor wanted to swap out of treasuries and into bunds, the lower bund yield might not be so bad if you can get short dollars in the 1.20-1.25 range.
     
    #2165     Jan 26, 2007
  6. with the understanding that the credit bubble term gets thrown around by card carrying chicken littles...it is useful to read about it from time to time just to see what's out there....

    here's one view that looks reasonable

    http://www.financialsense.com/Market/daily/tuesday.htm
     
    #2166     Jan 31, 2007
  7. mcurto

    mcurto

    Goldman hit today's move right on the money with their short March 106 puts vs. futures from basically a 4.10% vol level. On the close today vol at 3.85% or so. I thought maybe they would have bought back their short futures somewhere around 106-10 to 15 as we have traded there for at least the last few days and managed to hold the bottom of the range. Then they would essentially have paid for their scale into the short puts and have a free look to a rally over the next month or so back toward the upper end of the range. Their longer term June vol position is primarily short the 107 strike around 20,000 thus far. Still lots of data to go this week but other accounts aren't expecting a meaningful breakout and have sold the March 106-107 strangle in good size (at least 15,000 between different houses) both outright and vs. futures today around 106-20.
     
    #2167     Jan 31, 2007
  8. newbunch

    newbunch

    Today's reversal (so far) rivals yesterday's. An interesting couple of days.
     
    #2168     Feb 1, 2007
  9. mcurto

    mcurto

    March 106-107 strangle is looking pretty good (worth 23 and they sold 30's and 29's in BIG size) after today's massive failure to make a breakout either way.
     
    #2169     Feb 2, 2007
  10. interesting to see that 175K people decided to die in January and drop out of the work force....

    way to go people...........

    http://www.bls.gov/web/cesbd.htm
     
    #2170     Feb 2, 2007