Bond rally nearing an end?

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by gharghur2, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. mcurto

    mcurto

    The same guys sold 5,000 a piece of the April, May, and June 107 straddles today, they were marking up some previous shorts as they offered this stuff steady for the last hour of the day.
     
    #181     Mar 4, 2006
  2. They're pushing on a string at these vols, insanity. 30y atm straddle under 1'40 before an employment number? Something has gotta give.
     
    #182     Mar 4, 2006
  3. Are we only seeing one side of the trade? Are the straddle 'sellers' in treasuries, straddle 'buyers' in spread products? If you got a spread blow-out that was just 1/10th of the Fall 1998 move, you would make good money on the vol arbitrage. Are vols too cheap in ED?
     
    #183     Mar 4, 2006
  4. It's that simple? We have no way to know the ratios or tenors on any replication. You have no way to know that they'd make "good money on the vol-arbitrage"
     
    #184     Mar 4, 2006
  5. mcurto

    mcurto

    Yes, this low volatility is out of control, but nothing short of a disaster or structural change in long end interest rates is going to change it. Essentially, at this point, it is my belief that say one day the 30yr straddle will close at 1-30 (or any given unusually low number for front month 30yr vol) and open at 3-00 the next day. Until then they will continue to come in every day and absolutely smoke this stuff. Option locals were finally able to capitalize on a slight bid in the May 107 straddle the past two days, it traded up to 1-26 and 1-27, option locals sold about 15,000 total at those levels, and then bought them from the Goldman guys late yesterday down to 1-21, unbelievable trade.
     
    #185     Mar 4, 2006
  6. newbunch

    newbunch

    I'm sure by now you've seen Lehman's call for a 5.50% discount rate....
     
    #186     Mar 5, 2006
  7. Yeah, I saw that over the weekend.

    Its funny how markets work. Since early January, long-dated eurodollar futures have gone from pricing in a Fed Funds stoppage at 4.50% to beginning to price in a stoppage at 5.25% - and NOW Lehman makes their call. Where was Lehman 50 basis points ago? It really never fails.

    I've been itching to go long eurodollars, but have thankfully kept my powder dry, ... until now maybe. The Lehman call may be ringing a bell - I suspect we are pretty close to a bottom.

    Anybody with their eyes open can see that real estate markets are imploding. I find it hard to believe the Fed is not aware of it, and that they are a lot more concerned then they are letting on.

    The June 07 eurodollars closed at 94.95 on Friday. I expect I'll be scaling into a nice long position over the next few weeks.

    Anyways, this is a bond thread. Sorry to hijack. Perhaps we should start a Fed watch thread!
     
    #187     Mar 5, 2006
  8. Surdo

    Surdo

    Welcome aboard Ralph!
    Any semi-intelligent comments regarding the interest rate complex are welcome here. I just snuck in through the freight entrance.

    Is there any way to plot/extrapolate the YIELD of the "New 30 Year" on TS8.1 back in time? That gap in the yield chart when they reissued the 30 last month is really PISSING me off.

    I am trying to figure out 30 YEAR support based on past Yield trends.
     
    #188     Mar 5, 2006
  9. landboy

    landboy

    I thought I was the only one!!! Ya, thankfully the Bloomy has the underlying at:

    GT30 <gov> gp
     
    #189     Mar 5, 2006
  10. OK, so my vol arbitrage theory is somewhat fanciful. Do you think the trades are an outright bet on lower vols or some kind of manuever to hedge a options book?
     
    #190     Mar 6, 2006