Bond rally nearing an end?

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by gharghur2, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. Just looked you're absolutely right ... Euro $$$ sleeps
    Almost spring, time to awaken
     
    #161     Mar 2, 2006
  2. Bond futures have low volatility recently, could anyone explain this?
     
    #162     Mar 2, 2006
  3. mcurto

    mcurto

    Japanese are in buying puts in 30yr though, usually precedes a pretty big move. Has bought 10,000 May 109 puts and 5,000 April 110 puts. He is always right getting in but never takes profits and they expire worthless. Probably a cash hedge.
     
    #163     Mar 2, 2006
  4. He's right again, 30yr just broke finally!
     
    #164     Mar 2, 2006
  5. mcurto,

    If we can count this break as the real thing, I have 30yr:

    wave 1 115-12 to 112-04
    wave 2 ending at 113-13
    wave 3 should end around 110-05...

    tony
     
    #165     Mar 2, 2006
  6. newbunch

    newbunch

    Strangely, my reward vs risk ratios are nearly identical in the 10-yr bond and the S&P (the only instruments my ATS trades).
     
    #166     Mar 2, 2006
  7. Do you use general models that take into account intermarket relations or do you use separate independant models that are each specific to one market?
     
    #167     Mar 2, 2006
  8. mcurto

    mcurto

    As if it wasn't enough the Japanese buying huge size in the 30yr puts as we broke, we began to stabilize off the lows, as we traded to 107-09 this afternoon Goldman bank traders quoted the June 107-109 combo vs. 107-10.5 in June (a 66 delta on this thing). Boom, they come in during the last half hour and sell 30,000 of them at 29, selling put and buying call, covered against 20,000 futures short at 107-10.5. They essentially faded this whole move today by selling puts that went crazy bid and buying calls that got hammered. They could have easily sold 20,000 more of those combos it was so well bid in the 10yr options pit. Unbelievable the balls these guys have. I think its a brilliant play, slow steady grind back to 108 in tens by June expiration (maybe trade a bit lower before then though).
     
    #168     Mar 2, 2006
  9. You make it a very interesting market
    Appreciate your input :)
     
    #169     Mar 2, 2006
  10. mcurto

    mcurto

    Who ever said bonds were boring? Haha, actually they are, until days like today.
     
    #170     Mar 2, 2006