Bond rally nearing an end?

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by gharghur2, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. Lance Carson

    Lance Carson Guest

    Ask me when it gets to the target- 110-00 (ZBU6)
     
    #1371     Jun 9, 2006
  2. Surdo

    Surdo

    I think "Mohan" is trading Bonds now!
     
    #1372     Jun 9, 2006
  3. landboy

    landboy

    Ya, it'd be hard to stop a moving truck if it gets there... On the other hand, if the fed signals another rate hike we're 75 basis points negative and CPI inches higher, the fundamentals start kicking in...
     
    #1373     Jun 9, 2006
  4. mcurto

    mcurto

    As if PIMCO hasn't sold enough strangles they added another 20,000 to the total today at 17 ticks. Really the only traders doing anything meaningful today, light volume pop early, then nothing rest of the day besides that strangle around Noon. Wouldn't read too much into today's action.
     
    #1374     Jun 9, 2006
  5. It's as if Bill Gross was told that one cannot buy, only sell premium. Proif that the guy isn't comfortable with his trading. How many FI managers pull a Leeson every month. Ridiculous.
     
    #1375     Jun 9, 2006
  6. mcurto, risk-dude,

    What is the standard ratio for the 2/5/30 fly mentioned above?

    Thanks in advance.
     
    #1376     Jun 9, 2006
  7. Meanwhile, this from Marc Faber's June 5 note:

    "My readers will know from previous reports that I am ultra bearish about
    US bonds for the long term. In fact, I recommend that each reader buy just
    one 30-Year US government bond, frame it and put it on his wall in his
    living room. You can then, in future, show your grandchildren how the US
    dollar and bonds became worthless. However, for the short term, I believe
    that the out-performance of equities compared to bonds, since 2003, has
    ended and that bonds will now rebound over the next three months (see figure 5). I may add that bond bullish sentiment reach recently extremely low levels while commercial had record long bond positions – a powerful contrary indictor, which would support my take that the US economy will shortly badly disappoint."

    http://www.gloomboomdoom.com/marketcoms/mcdownloads/060605.pdf

    *Note his May letter was spot on re: commodity and equity sell-off, accompanied by a rally in bonds/notes.
     
    #1377     Jun 10, 2006
  8. faber spot-on u must be joking... he is weeks behind the curve (months actually, but no $-bear will ever want to even consider the possibility...), so ultra-bearish he is probably on prozac now having to accept the realities of rates going up and how money's moving away from his babies... http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70454 what a joke!
     
    #1378     Jun 10, 2006
  9. I stand by my statement "*Note his May letter was spot on re: commodity and equity sell-off, accompanied by a rally in bonds/notes."

    I would respond to your USD comment but it is off topic - see the thread title.
     
    #1379     Jun 10, 2006
  10. mcurto

    mcurto

    BlueHoreshoe,

    For the 2/5/30 yr fly you are essentially looking at it as two separate yield curve trades. The 2/5 or TUF spread weighting is normally 100:90 and the 5/30 or FOB spread weighting is almost always 250:100. Thus, if you are looking to do this spread the optimum ratio would be 100:340:100 or at its smallest unit 5:17:5. The futures spread is kind of a proxy for a cash belly vs. wings play.
     
    #1380     Jun 10, 2006