Bond rally nearing an end?

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by gharghur2, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. Hi!

    That link was timely :)

    I try not to let monetary policy interfere with what I'm seeing in the EW. Afterall, I believe it's all discounted in the waves.

    Appreciate your views too
    good luck!
     
    #1141     May 13, 2006
  2. thurs. and fri. equity charts were beaten like a rented mule...

    seems to say liquidity will begin to dry up in Q4, after the election...
     
    #1142     May 14, 2006
  3. that to me is a foregone conclusion.
     
    #1143     May 14, 2006
  4. newbunch

    newbunch

    I've been saying the same thing (and I am no doom and gloom person). The markets (stocks, bonds, commodities, real estate) were all liquidity driven upwards and now they'll all collapse.
     
    #1144     May 14, 2006
  5. I'm impressed by the knowledge that has been shared here since Friday but I think that as we are about to start a new week, an assessment of the current situation is in order. What is going on and what is likely to happen in the next few days?

    To me it is clear that we have a developing crisis of confidence toward the Federal Reserve and that the problems we have with bonds, the dollar and now the stock market was not created by bad economic data but by a perceived gap between the Fed's perspective on inflation and the market's. I saw the current situation evolve from <a href="http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=996452#post996452">day 1</a> the following way:

    <b>PHASE I</b>
    On March 1st, bond premiums started to reflect growing fears of inflation after recently released data showed that the CPI and the GDP deflator were higher than expected; that manufacturing activity was also stronger than expected; while Bernanke was expressing the belief that inflationary pressures were contained.

    Since bonds were in a downtrend it didn't take much for inflation concerns to be integrated into bond premiums and indeed, by April 20th, the yield curve started to flatten again as bond traders were either showing less concern about inflation or stepping on the sidelines before Bernanke's testimony to Congress a week later.

    <b>PHASE II</b>
    By adding the possibility of an immediate pause to the possibility of a shorter tightening cycle, Bernanke failed in his testimony to appease what became the driving concern of the bond market. The yield curve started to steepen again until May 1st when what seemed to be a controlled leak to the press reversed the impression that the Fed was dovish. Unfortunately, the lesson was not learned and the possibility of a pause in June was raised again in the May 10th FOMC statement.

    <b>NOW</b>
    Since the current situation was not created by economic developments per se but by differences in perception between the market on one side and the Federal Reserve and Treasury Department on the other side, things could turn around quickly, based on perception. Also, oil is very likely to follow stocks and drop to $65 this week. But, on the other hand, the dollar index is on its way down to 80, a level where the status of the US dollar will be re-assed again.
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    #1145     May 14, 2006
  6. Hi Tony,
    I think the long awaited reversals in commodities and currencies are finally here. Gold down $40 from the top yesterday. All USD pairs are way off their top/bottom too.
     
    #1146     May 15, 2006
  7. #1147     May 15, 2006
  8. I see more resistance to the falling dollar than I expected. That's good.

    The week is starting on a very positive note for bonds. If stocks don't rebound too quickly, we'll have our rally tomorrow.
     
    #1148     May 15, 2006
  9. mcurto

    mcurto

    Brumfield big seller up here to JP Morgan in tens at 00.5, about 4000 total traded in pit, then Goldman came in a bit later and sold 1000 as well. Lots of guys running this morning, was a fun bid, but starting to wane a little bit.
     
    #1149     May 15, 2006
  10. There will be plenty of opportunities for damage control this week. Bernanke speaks at the Atlanta Fed's hedge funds conference tomorrow evening; John Snow will testify Thursday about the semi-annual FX report to the Senate Banking Committee, and will give a speech at the Bond Market Association annual meeting Friday.

    Other speakers this week are Alan Greenspan, Thursday; New York Federal Reserve Bank President Timothy Geithner who will also give a speech at the Bond Market Association meeting; and St. Louis Federal Reserve Bank President William Poole who will take part in Global Interdependence Center discussion on yield curve inversion.
     
    #1150     May 15, 2006