Bond rally nearing an end?

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by gharghur2, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. mcurto

    mcurto

    The Japs are still long 10,000 or so of the June 106 puts in the 30yr and maybe will roll them in the coming weeks. Other than that they have no position in any 5yr or 10yr puts. Riskarb, another size NOB options play today on the close, sold 10,000 Sep 103 puts in the 10yr versus buying 6,000 Sep 103 puts in the 30yr, another steepener. These NOB option steepening plays are getting fairly sizeable, and almost all in the same direction, but the spread has yet to make a move.
     
    #1101     May 11, 2006
  2. tomorrow's another day ;)
     
    #1102     May 11, 2006
  3. These seem to be the same group... trading ~premium neutral, flat gamma at neutral delta. This trade inverts from steepening to flattening from 1 to 2 sigmas an short G/dG. Another "scratch your head" trade. It's not exotic and the exposures are a *yawn*.
     
    #1103     May 11, 2006
  4. Riskarb,

    How much of a spread is needed for these NOB positions to show a sizeable gain?
     
    #1104     May 11, 2006
  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    The ZN chart still looks to have a broadening bottom. I am staying long for now.
     
    #1105     May 11, 2006
  6. I agree!
    See no reason to abandon ship, but usually do not like being long in a bear market.
     
    #1106     May 11, 2006
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    If we end up being wrong then we'll just get out and live to fight another day.
     
    #1107     May 11, 2006
  8. as always :)
    good luck !
     
    #1108     May 11, 2006
  9. Makes sense.
     
    #1109     May 11, 2006
  10. Also took an initial long position here, expecting we will rally into sometime around June contract expiry. Planning to pile on if my screen turns green in a convincing manner. If economy starts to weaken it could break to the upside in significant way.

    On the downside, medium-term prevailing trend is not in position's favor and I (we) may have just caught the proverbial falling knife? Inflation may get away from us and rates could break higher. But I am going to ask the market (politely) to prove that first. :p
     
    #1110     May 11, 2006