bloomberg terminal- worth the $$$ ??

Discussion in 'Trading Software' started by NDQnCA, Nov 5, 2002.

  1. How about a screenshot of the news feed?

    Also....s this software you run on a windows platform?
    Or physically a seperate terminal?

    What technical requiresment are there to
    get a bloomberg terminal?

    Someone mentioned a T1 line.


    peace

    axeman
     
    #21     Nov 22, 2002
  2. Trajan

    Trajan

    I have never traded using the Bloomberg platform, but, have used it as a resource while trading in another country. Simply, I would not have been able to survive without it. Try moving to a country without knowing the local language and gather information. It's tuff. Bloomberg is straight forward. If it's their, you'll find it, others, you may never know if it exists or not because of their unforgiving structures.
     
    #22     Nov 22, 2002
  3. NAZDAWG

    NAZDAWG

    There is only one way to find out if the claims are true. during your trial compare to dow jones and see if the bloomberg is worth 1700 a month. if it is true and you do get news stories that are ahead of other services then it may be worth the cost to you.
    otherwise $1700.00 a month is better in your pocket than in Bloomies
     
    #23     Nov 22, 2002
  4. Seven

    Seven

    T1 - preferred method of delivery. their negotiated rate roughly 1/4 of what local telco would charge.

    I haven't got my package of info. yet so I don't have all configuration info.

    Real question here is how do I get a FCM to 'soft dollar' some expenses. I'd like to have some idea as to how much someone can realistically negotiate commissions/data feed costs down based on their commission volume.

    Is there a Dr. in the house?
     
    #24     Nov 22, 2002
  5. Aaron

    Aaron

    Is this a hedge fund / commodity pool you've created?

    It seems there are three "business models" when it comes to commissions:

    1) Pay a substantial commission and outright profit from the commissions by having a portion of it paid to you or your management company.

    2) Pay a substantial commission and indirectly profit from it through soft dollars.

    3) Negotiate the lowest commissions possible and forgo sharing in them or soft dollars. (Schindler Trading's policy)
     
    #25     Nov 22, 2002
  6. CalTrader

    CalTrader Guest

    My completely non-scientific tests seem to show that bloomberg is not always "first" on some news items. They are very good however and often - although not always - are ahead of reuters and dow .....

    For my use bloomberg really offers little advantage given its price. Most of the features provided can be obtained through other sources and usually with a bit better implementation. As a package though it is somewhat comprehensive ...
     
    #26     Nov 22, 2002

  7. Hi Darren,

    You must realize that usually you first negotiate commission (based on volume) and then workout the soft dollar package (based on volume). Read me loud and clear, everything is negotiable. But in the grand scheme of things 50-200 RT/month is not much.

    Here's my advice, call Fimat, Refco and MAN (all prime broker desks) and try to get down to around $2-5 RT for clearing. Then you'll have to back off than number a bit for their soft dollar pad. Once you raise assets and crank up your volume a bit then you can go right back to them and try to re-up.

    As is obvious, you want to soft dollar as much as possible because it’s wrapped into your transaction cost—I’m sure I don’t explain the benefits of this—plus this expense (over/under) can be amortized against the firms P/L dependent upon your docs.


    Best Regards,
    Dr.Zhivodka


    If you want to PM me that’s fine, but I’m gone until for the holiday’s until 12-2
     
    #27     Nov 22, 2002
  8. Seven

    Seven

    Patient responded well to the treatment.

    Negotiations start next week.
     
    #28     Nov 22, 2002
  9. MrDinky

    MrDinky

    To add to the other comments, their staff is very knowledgable on the product. They can usually get back within the hour with specific directions on how to find the information you're looking for (not a canned response.) Or if it's urgent, tell them and they will call you directly, usually within a few minutes.

    Someone asked about news searches - you can search by subject, date, symbols, keywords, whatever. As far as the speed of news, frankly I haven't seen anyone faster. Headlines like earnings reports and guidance come over the wire as soon as they're announced, you can tell someone is there typing everything in live during the conference calls. I don't think you can do a mouse-click type search as the program is primarily command line driven (think DOS.) You have to remember the different commands for whatever it is you're trying to do which can be a pain at first, but if you tend to do the same thing over and over you remember them and it gets easier.

    The only weak area is their charts. You can see what I mean as they use the same charts on Bloomberg Television. But they are comprehensive so, yes, I believe they're worth paying up for.

    :cool:
     
    #29     Nov 22, 2002
  10. Charts weak area? They always talk about those nice charts on Bloomberg TV ....
     
    #30     Nov 22, 2002