Blaise Pascal

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by panzerman, May 8, 2007.

  1. panzerman

    panzerman

    "Uncertain fortune is thoroughly mastered by the equity of the calculation."

    - Blaise Pascal

    What the hell did he mean? That if you have a good enough equation, you can basically print money in the markets?
     
  2. I think he thought you could predict the future if you were able to do correct calculations. In his day doing cald wasn't easy, he was one of the first designers of machines to do calculus. So maybe it was a marketing slogan :)

    Ursa..
     
  3. nitro

    nitro

    Given that Pascal basically invented [combinatorial] probability theory, I give you one guess what he means.

    nitro
     
  4. panzerman

    panzerman

    I take that to mean that if you know all the probabilities, they will sum to 1. The problem is that most of the time, all the probabilities aren't knowable. Thus on an empirical level, his quote is bullshit.
     
  5. man is a thinking reed works for me.
     
  6. nitro

    nitro

    A cornerstone of all science is Unitarity, or the requirement that probabilities of all possible outcomes adds to one.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarity_(physics)

    That probabilites are unknown is one thing and likely the reason why it is so hard to apply in many cases. That they don't add to one (I am not sure you are suggesting that), well, write a paper on it and prove that is so. BTW, even in science, there have been cases where unitarity seems to be violated (certain processes in Quantum Electrodynamics), but that is usually a sign of a bad underlying theory and it is usually taken to be resolved at all cost.

    You are right that precise probabilities are unknown in many cases in trading. But it is not true that it is unknowable in all cases. I work for an options market making firm. We make lots of trades with size. We have no idea which ones will be profitable, and which ones will be losers. We do know that with a high level of precision, 70% of those trades will be winners and 30% will be losers. As a frm, we have never had a down month in five years.

    nitro
     
  7. Isn't modern options more of a voting system than anything else, with the smartest options pricings taking advantage of this voting system in a way that for example, Black Scholes uses current Market prices to price options?

    Therefore any concerns about probablility would instead be resolved by action in the bid ask.
     
  8. nitro

    nitro

    If I understand what you are saying, the answer is no. But I can't go into it deeply.

    In the short term it may be about the price now, but if your volatility estimate is correct and the markets is off, the B/A will move to your correct vol estimate on average over many trades and strikes and expirations.

    nitro
     
  9. Is there such thing as simply trading through the liquidity of an option series? Something along those lines would work with a voting system idea I'm trying to figure out.
     
  10. nitro

    nitro

    I am not sure I understand your question.

    nitro
     
    #10     May 18, 2007