Black Monday

Discussion in 'Trading' started by bond_trad3r_II, Jun 28, 2015.

  1. 1% is a pimple on Kim Kardashians cellulite ridden ass.
     
    #31     Jun 28, 2015
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  2. Just came!
     
    #32     Jun 28, 2015
  3. ktm

    ktm

    I don't think this turns into much. The ECB continues with liquidity, but they aren't raising it any more...the headlines saying "freezing it" is akin to your credit card company saying they aren't raising your credit line - it's a bit misleading to get some extra clicks on the story I suppose. The threat to not open the banks has been on the table for weeks.

    In January or February, this was a big deal because exposures were unknown and it was new. Today all the major exposures are with the ECB and IMF and everyone else has had ample time to square their affairs. All that's left is the hand wringing and car burning from those that agreed all along that bills could go unpaid in the interest of "fairness and equality". But those folks don't have any funds in the bank anyway.

    For the rest of the world, the real issue is what someone posted earlier - focus is next upon Spain, Italy and Portugal. They also have some steepening bills and ongoing math problems.
     
    #33     Jun 28, 2015
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  4. hajimow

    hajimow

    40%?? yes that can happen. I remember in 2008 everyone 401K was down like 30% to 55%. The market rule is "never say never"
    All stocks have the potential to go down from 10% to 90% From AAPL, to NFLX and to SHACK !!!!
     
    #34     Jun 28, 2015
  5. hajimow

    hajimow

    Fear of a default in Greece will increase the possibility of Ireland, Spain, Italy getting into the same situation and their bonds will start to sell off and that will create margin sand you will see its effect on all "nonrelated" stocks like WMT, CAT, INTC,............You name it.
     
    #35     Jun 28, 2015
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  6. hajimow

    hajimow

    TZA is down from 4x16=$72 to $9 in the last 3 years so doubling to $18 would still be not surprising.
    ADI can easily drop $10 and still be overvalued based on its P/E compared to it peers.
    MCD can drop $10 to $87 and still be pricy based on its diminishing sales and non existent plan to restructure.
    The story goes on and on.
     
    #36     Jun 28, 2015
  7. sheda

    sheda

    The biggest risk concerning Spain & Italy is a booming Greece in a few years time while they continue to stagnate and deciding to follow suit
     
    #37     Jun 28, 2015
  8. clacy

    clacy

    Will this be the first domino to fall?

    Probably it will be a temporary blip.

    But I can see an outside scenario (I would handicap it at 5% odds) where this steamrolls into a global mess that results in capital controls, massive wealth confiscation and Obama delaying the 2016 elections.

    He seems to be able to interpret laws as he sees fit, not as was written. Words are now meaningless that the SCOTUS have twice twisted the words in the ACA in order to justify what was "intended by the authors" rather than written.

    If they can do that with one law, how can we be sure they won't do it with many others?
     
    #38     Jun 28, 2015
  9. sheda

    sheda

    Heard this kind of thing at the last election
     
    #39     Jun 28, 2015
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  10. hajimow

    hajimow

    Market might open up %2 because the refugee prisoner was captured :D
     
    #40     Jun 28, 2015