Black Hawk Down

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by nitro, Feb 4, 2011.

Is BHD the badest movie ever?

  1. Geesys. Non stop steel from beginning to end.

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    36.4%
  2. Nah. Saving Private Ryan tougher.

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    45.5%
  3. I don't know.

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  4. I don't care.

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  1. I think the following are better:
    Saving Private Ryan
    Enemy at the Gates
    Platoon
    Flight of the Intruder
    We Were Soldiers, with Mel Gibson
    A Bridge Too Far. This is an anti-war movie, but I still like it, and it hasn't compromised my will to fight. [​IMG]
     
    #11     Feb 4, 2011
  2. What most of these movies illustrated to me was the incredible courage of the troops and the incompetency and sheer malfeasance of the military brass and civilian leadership.

    Black Hawk is a good example. The experienced guys were dubious about the mission and particulary its timing, but they had orders from arrogant officers, who of course weren't going to be putting their necks on the line. The situation was compounded because Bill Clinton had sent troops into this combat zone without proper support , eg armored vehicles. Incredibly, they were supposed to dpeend on Pakistani forces for armor. The U. S. Marines won't even depend on the Army, yet these guys were supposed to rely on pakistani armor. Then when the shyte hit the fan, concerns about civilian casualties overrode what should have been paramount, concern for our guys.

    People should have been court-martialed and sent to prison for htis fiasco, but of course it was all swept under the rug.

    Just to prove we have learned basically nothing, there was a similar fiasco in Afghanistan. Troops were sent to a very remote outpost and when they came under a sustained attack, the brass failed to get them resupplied or send reinforcements. They lost pretty much everyone when the taliban overran their position after a lengthy firefight. It was so embarrassing the Penatgon commissioned an internal review by a Marine general, who faulted the senior officers. His report was deepsixed, and they did another one which incredibly blamed the lowest level guys at the post and absolved all the commanders. see

    http://www.npr.org/2011/01/17/132985092/father-seeks-answers-to-sons-role-in-afghan-battle

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/04/AR2009100403271.html

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/28/AR2010122804334.html
     
    #12     Feb 4, 2011