Bitcoin Price Thread

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by Magna, Nov 26, 2017.

  1. SunTrader

    SunTrader

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    All about that basis trade
    An unnerving development is starting to unfold as Donald Trump’s trade war hammers financial markets: US Treasuries, far from offering shelter from the turmoil, are suddenly losing their haven appeal.

    The plunge in bond prices brings back memories of the onset of the pandemic, says James Athey of Marlborough Investment Management, when widespread deleveraging sparked blowups of a popular hedge fund strategy known as the basis trade.

    While there’s little concrete evidence of dealers cutting off financing or hedge funds getting caught wrong-footed thus far, Athey said he can’t shake the feeling that recent moves are just a taste of the hidden risk lurking beneath the market’s surface.

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    “It looked like in March 2020 when we got these wild moves, possibly relating to the basis trade,” he said. “Last week we had not seen any signs of hedge funds getting stopped out of the bond futures basis, but suddenly you’re seeing yields spike.”

    The basis trade is a strategy hedge funds use to wager on the minuscule gaps between prices of cash Treasuries and futures. They typically borrow to multiply their bets, up to 50 or 100 times the capital invested. Recent estimates put the amount of existing wagers at about $1 trillion, roughly double what is was five years ago.

    Problems can arise when market turmoil upends the economics of the trade and forces investors to rapidly unwind their positions to repay their loans. It can create a cascading effect that causes yields to surge, or even worse, the Treasury market to seize up, much like what occurred in 2020.

    There are plenty of other reasons bonds might be selling off: The trade war will trigger stagflation that may prevent interest-rate cuts from the Federal Reserve. Foreign investors may be ditching US debt. Maybe fund managers are flocking to cash-like shorter-dated securities as risk assets swoon. And finally, portfolio managers may be selling to make room for a flood of new Treasury securities this week. —Liz Capo McCormick and Michael Mackenzie
     
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  2. The US had just finished propping up the banks that were starting to fall like dominoes all over again. Looks like the institutions are about to blow up yet again...
     
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    #8553     Apr 9, 2025
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  4. johnarb

    johnarb

    If the Fed (or some other entity) are intervening in the bond markets to prevent the collapse, that would explain why bitcoin just shot up $3000 and the markets are up nicely...

    not-qe, nor ycc, something else...

    Someone blinked... nothing stops this train (Lyn Alden)

    Update: 90-day Tariff stuff

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    #8554     Apr 9, 2025
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  5. orbit23

    orbit23

    Last bounce / run ever. It's the best just before it ends. Enjoy it.

    Just please don't tell me that Justins garbage TRX token is going to get sent next.
     
    #8555     Apr 9, 2025
  6. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    He blinked. China didn't.

    90 day pause
     
    #8556     Apr 9, 2025
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  7. So we get to wait 3 months before going through this all over again :strong:
     
    #8557     Apr 9, 2025
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  8. johnarb

    johnarb

    Closing the position here

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    #8558     Apr 9, 2025
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  9. I miss the old days when we got excited about 80085 and waxy didnt get it.:D
     
    #8559     Apr 10, 2025
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  10. johnarb

    johnarb

    It's not bitcoin or btc, waxy, it's perpetual futures on btc

    I do not trade much perpetual futures, less than 10 last year, so it's just short term trading, pnl and stuff, cannot give tax advice, i suggest tax cpa

    i do have losses ytd on msty and Jan options expired worthless...
     
    #8560     Apr 10, 2025