Bitcoin Price Thread

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by Magna, Nov 26, 2017.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    Anyone know how they measure inflows and outflows?
     
    #6461     Oct 26, 2024
  2. NoahA

    NoahA

    Once again, the technicals is just a way to use math on prices that have already happened.

    You see that article on MSFT having a vote on whether they should add BTC to their balance sheet? There hasn't been a single company that went down after adopting a BTC strategy to their treasury. With the shareholders voting, do you think they will vote against having a possible explosive move to their stock??

    I think this sideways actions for the past 6 months have been excellent in distributing bitcoin to a wider audience. I even saw a post about how some university added $15M of one of the ETF's onto their balance sheet. I imagine most of this is going to be illiquid. Once a major player like MSFT of GOOG or APPL adopts a bitcoin strategy and wants 50k bitcoins, you will see the price make a move that your "technicals" won't be able to explain.
     
    #6462     Oct 26, 2024
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  3. You are forgetting that price is pre-determined by the chart. The chart is showing weakness. EW is showing a possible double correction setting up. MSTR announcing they are buying more BTC is irrelevant to price...what happened when an entire country (El Salvador) announced they were switching to bitcoin? Price tanked. External events do not affect bitcoin in any meaningful or predictable way. How do we know that this current move wasn't fueled ahead of the announcement of an upcoming vote? It doesn't matter...bitcoin TA was showing that we were beginning an ABC middle pattern which began the move from 58k to present. You cannot trade based on upcoming news, because the big money is wayyy ahead of it...and the chart is way ahead of big money. This does not mean that bitcoin won't rally from here, but you cannot depend on news to propel it...news will only facilitate price completing its natural cycle.
     
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    #6463     Oct 26, 2024
  4. johnarb

    johnarb

    Uptober is a bust, the big issue is the election uncertainties, no TA can do anything about it, imho

    There are trillions of $ waiting to invest and speculate after the election

    I got out of my short term trade perp futures, too stressful, but my long term "trades"/investments are doing quite well, mstr call options and memecoins

    btc above $60k should be very profitable if you got in 3-4 months ago on the right bitcoin-crypto-related positions
     
    #6464     Oct 26, 2024
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  5. Specterx

    Specterx

    Obviously the inflows represent shifting from self-custody into ETF vehicles for purposes of liquidity, convenience & security. Otherwise the price would be rising steadily (like gold post 2004) rather than chopping sideways for eight months.

    BTC is the big laggard among risk assets. Peak to peak it’s well behind not only the Qs but also German, Indian, and Japanese stocks, along with gold and silver.
     
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  7. johnarb

    johnarb

    You are wrong if you simply study the 13F filings, unless you believe pension funds, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, insurance companies, sovereign wealth funds, banks et al were sitting on a bunch of bitcoin in cold storage and sold them and used the funds to buy bitcoin
     
    #6467     Oct 26, 2024
  8. Moving money to etf's should not have any affect on price because the etf's have to meet new inflow with new bitcoin.
     
    #6468     Oct 26, 2024
  9. Also, can we get a moment of silence for the pre-conceived notion that big money is the smart money? Retail has been hodling bitcoin for over a decade with the knowledge that bitcoin equity will out pace mortgage debt. :) It seems like all these companies announcing they are buying bitcoin for the same reason, are being praised for arriving late to the party...

    @johnarb @Specterx @NoahA
     
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  10. johnarb

    johnarb

    Anyone who's committed to bitcoin for the long term understands that all the money buying bitcoin from the etf's and corporations like mstr, block/square, mara is very good for the bitcoin global adoption and continued success

    Anyone who is only interested in bitcoin for short term get-rich-quick trades will have other concerns

    Do you actually own bitcoin, waxy? I seem to remember you started a thread about the disadvantages of owning actual bitcoin vs etf's
     
    #6470     Oct 26, 2024
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