Bitcoin Price Thread

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by Magna, Nov 26, 2017.

  1. johnarb

    johnarb

    Ok, buddy. I hope you're right because I can see more tears for you every night if Microstrategy is over $2,000/share

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    #3731     Apr 15, 2022
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  2. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    I couldn't fail to notice the lack of arguments in your post. Price isn't everything specially when it is going down.

    Since BTC is just a 2.5 beta tech stock, you can get the same results by going long on margin with NDX. And you don't have to worry about stablecoins, regulations, whatnot.
     
    #3732     Apr 15, 2022
  3. johnarb

    johnarb

    There's a reason that I sometimes put a disclaimer on my posts. Imho, we have a responsibility to the audience and to others who lack experience or knowledge

    I know lately I've been saying for you to buy bitcoin and say it's financial advise, but you're a very much informed audience and been around the crypto space for a very long time even longer than I am who got in when btc was already $100

    An inexperienced person might see our exchange and think "this Bitcoin is too difficult to understand, but this post from Pekelo about achieving the same results, I can relate to, since I've invested in the stock market and tech stocks for many many years"

    The person initiates the trade, we get a recession, they get liquidated and lose a significant portion of their portfolio. Or an escalation of the war, nuclear strike is used, we get a flash crash like a 9/11 event same effect

    • Recommending a leveraged position as a proxy for a long-only with no leverage position is dangerous

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    #3733     Apr 16, 2022
  4. easymon1

    easymon1

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    #3734     Apr 16, 2022
  5. johnarb

    johnarb

    :D


     
    #3735     Apr 20, 2022
  6. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Hedge...

    Hedge my ass.
     
    #3736     Apr 22, 2022
  7. NoahA

    NoahA

    Call me crazy, but I saw something interesting in the action of the Nasdaq and BTC on Friday. As the equity markets continued to sell off, BTC stopped following. Yes, its been dropping as well for the past 2 sessions, but look at this divergence in the afternoon as outlined by the blue lines. QQQ keeps dropping while BTC found strength.

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    On a similar note, InvestAnswers had a comment about how lots of people are calling for gold to hit $5000, and then a subsequent poll about which asset class will hit their respective milestone first.



    Here is the results of the poll after voting.

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    Clearly there is a bias towards BTC among people who follow him, but for gold to go 2.5x for such a huge market would I believe make BTC going up significantly higher. Its almost a non-question from my perspective. The amount of manipulation with BTC only goes so far. Sure you can have "paper" BTC via futures contracts, just like there is lots of "paper" gold for sale, but I believe the limits of manipulation are capped, especially when people want to take their BTC off exchanges.

    I do believe the day will come when BTC disassociates itself from following tech sector, and it may be happening slowly already. Furthermore, people expect a crash in BTC if the tech sector crashes, very much like March 2020, and although this is a huge possibility, the fact that everyone expects this means that its perhaps not as likely this time around.
     
    #3737     Apr 23, 2022
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  8. nitrene

    nitrene

    That poll is just a measure of what is popular on Twitter, but I would say BTC would be the first. The QQQ correlation to BTC is a consequence of institutions getting involved in it and in the same vein that is the reason if there is another dislocation like March 2020 or September 2008 BTC & the rest will all go down since they will be sold in order of liquidity assuming they don't want to exit their equity positions.

    Gold really thrives in a negative real rate environment or Government instability.
     
    #3738     Apr 23, 2022
  9. NoahA

    NoahA

    But what if people figure out that running into USD is just throwing money away at 10% per year? Maybe more will start running into BTC and the rest will be history.

    I of course agree that gold can also do well, but paper gold might not seem as attractive this time, and all that paper gold can even artificially suppress the price, and maybe people won't be able to purchase physical gold of silver. It might set up a perfect storm for going into self custody of BTC. You simply cannot control BTC nearly as much as you can gold. As a far out conspiracy theory, the gold market can even be paused... look at what happened to nickel trading at the LME. But with BTC, there are probably hundreds of reputable exchanges that will still be functioning.
     
    #3739     Apr 23, 2022
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  10. Ed48

    Ed48

    If the SHTF then throwing money away at 10% per year might seem like the least worst option.

    Unless we get hyperinflation, USD will remain a safe haven in times of severe market stress.

    During a crash, give me a choice between USD and everything else (including gold) and I'd always choose USD. I don't believe the old adage "cash is king" has changed.
     
    #3740     Apr 24, 2022