Bitcoin "Freefall"

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by SunTrader, Dec 15, 2021.

  1. Let's pretend I'm a normie since you are so well researched and I can't hope to match your level of research.

    What's the analogy for the above?

    It's a way to fund new tokens. Why? Are they going to make value that isn't just financial jiggery pokery?

    The mechanism is new, but it seems like it enables this which is a house of cards: (TL;DW the guy basically recycles a $1000 investment into $3500 and then uses that to provide liquidity). So nothing really new.

    It's probably time to buy in now before the normies get to it but I am still struggling to see how it's anything but a ponzi.
     
    #291     Feb 19, 2022
  2. johnarb

    johnarb

    Did I not say I'll be the first to admit I know only a small part of defi, only the ones I'm involved with?

    When MrMuppet made those posts in 2020, the TVL of all defi was less than $5B and mostly on Ethereum blockchain, now the defi TVL is more than $200B across many chains

    Wall Street has taken notice, there's so much alpha in defi, I'm sure you've seen it discussed on CNBC. I am quite certain that a lot of $$$ came from wall street players


    How many times have you said the word ponzi?

    Nice video pick to diminish the significance of defi Mr. Tech Lead millionaire

    Reduction ad absurdum


    You will absolutely fud yourself into staying away from bitcoin, cryptos, defi, and NFT's

    It takes no effort at all, you know, tulip, bubble, made of 0's and 1's, no intrinsic value, ponzi (your favorite)

    I don't care whether you buy into defi before the normies or you stay a normie forever

    I thought you were interested in learning but I think you just want to antagonize people who are involved in the defi space. Maybe because you missed out and feel you're too late


    I do not have any incentives to explain to you in detail why I'm getting over $5,000 in rewards every single day on staking assets that are all profits


    You should build your biggest short position on Bitcoin per your prediction of bitcoin hitting $20K and don't bother with defi
     
    #292     Feb 19, 2022
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  3. I did not mean to imply they ARE a ponzi, I'm asking what is the value of staking and the answer appears to be to make more coins to stake...

    Is this in $5000/day in *cashed out* ETH or BTC or is it still in pegged coin?
     
    #293     Feb 19, 2022
  4. johnarb

    johnarb

    I gave you a 1-line reply but it contained a lot of info, rewards are paid out in native tokens as part of the emission (inflation) process of the smartcontract protocol

    Imagine you were starting a crypto project that was going to use a crypto asset or more. How do you distribute the tokens?

    In the case of the biggest smartcontract crypto bank on the blockchain, AAVE (LEND), they did an ICO, but that is so 2017

    The new method now is to distribute the tokens to yield farmers, the ones helping the project, the ones putting capital to work to provide liquidity to new buyers coming into the project and the ones leaving the project and selling their tokens


    I get the rewards in native tokens but I convert to stablecoin. I collect every 12 hours to coincide with 2 epoch emissions of 2omb tokens via the Boardroom single-staking of 2Share tokens. TL;DR, I collect twice in a 24 hour period and immediately use a dex to convert to stablecoins

    This is my farm staking a liquidity pool tokens (2omb/2share) and the rewards have accumulated for the past 5 1/2 hours

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    #294     Feb 19, 2022
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  5. OK this helps explain the mechanism.

    Why are you staking the coins you are staking?

    BTW I'm not sure why you dissed tech lead, this is exactly what he does. It does appear to be a massive gold rush right now.
     
    #295     Feb 19, 2022
  6. johnarb

    johnarb

    That particular pair has the highest APR out of the 3 LP farms on 2omb

    That's APR so if you compound that daily, you can get hundreds of thousands of APY %, but that won't last long as the token emission is finite. 2Shares emission stops on Apr 3


    I used to like watching Tech Lead, his humor is good, can't tell if he's being sarcastic, but after a while stopped watching his videos, don't want to say I got tired of it but it's more like I got busy

    One thing that's not cool is when Tech Lead issued the MM social community token. Crypto is serious business, many put their life savings into crypto investing and if he's going to treat it like one of his dry humor jokes, let's just say I think that's f*cked up

    CryptosRus and InvestAnswers are good YouTube channels who try to help everyone invest wisely in cryptos
     
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  7. OK so you are putting your money in solely because of the potential return. How are you avoiding a rug pull type situation?
     
    #297     Feb 19, 2022
  8. johnarb

    johnarb

    I came from the original Tomb project (protocol) but it was often times under peg (meaning no rewards on single-staking Tshare)

    Someone mentioned 2omb on the Discord channel and that it has been over peg money printer go brrr 24/7

    So I joined the 2omb Discord, joined the convo, learned the dev was a 16 yo (just turned 16 the day before I joined the Discord)

    In Discord, I learned that the smartcontract has been renounced and cannot be rug pulled (meaning cannot make changes to the smartcontract which is a fork of Tomb but with minor changes)

    Tomb is audited and a big project with over $1B of TVL (at the time)

    The rest is history. I put in ~$65K in 2 staking deposits but was risk averse so I collected all rewards until the capital has been recovered

    The APR when I joined a month ago was much higher, over over 8.5%/day in the LP farm so only took me 10-12 days to recover all capital

    The reason it took that long was the price of the tokens were high when I joined and was volatile but mainly below what I paid for them initially

    Many Tomb forks fail to stay above peg and thus people lose money as the price of the tokens crash, but 2omb has been very strong due to the community

    That $ value on the LP farm you see in the screenshot is all profits, but if I sell it, then it's like killing the goose that lays a golden egg twice a day
     
    #298     Feb 19, 2022
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  9. Love it.
     
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  10. johnarb

    johnarb

    I saw on a Tweet a few days ago that the character is based on the "ya winning, son" meme, lol, finally clicked

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    Price floor is now 3.69 Eth (over $10K) but I guess I'll wait until it catches up to BAYC price floor so I can trade one of my mfers for a BAYC :D (totally kidding but I would not mind at all)

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    #300     Feb 19, 2022
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