Birthers Hail Judge’s Decision That Could “Depose” Obama

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Mvector, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. jem

    jem

    By the way has anyone noticed Stu has morphed his writing style again.

    This is the third iteration.

    There was original Stu. smart guy... may not have been deceptive.
    Fake Stu deceptive as can be... but argued off the top of his head.
    And now, we have very deceptive stu, weaving in fact and fiction as if it were all fact.

    Stu, do you claim to be the original Stu?
     
    #581     Feb 21, 2012
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    #582     Feb 21, 2012
  3. pspr

    pspr

    Maybe Stu is a romance novel writer in real life. But that would probably me (s)he is a Stuetta.
     
    #583     Feb 21, 2012
  4. pspr

    pspr

    The fat lady hasn't sung yet in Georgia. Although it seems since Obama gave Georgia billions for their nuclear reactor it is an up hill battle to validate his qualifications to be on the ballot.

    On February 16, 2012, Liberty Legal Foundation reported:

    “The Georgia Superior Court tried to pull a fast one. They initially refused to file our Petition for Appeal. They claimed that our papers lacked two dollars for the two motions that were included along with our petition. We DID include the $213.50 filing fee for the petition, but they were going to sit on our documents and not file any of them, in part because of the missing $2.

    The Superior Court’s clerk’s office made several other excuses as to why our petition couldn’t be filed. I won’t bore you with the details. Suffice to say they tried several excuses, none of which reflect normal operating procedures for any court I’ve heard of. Each time I explained why their reason didn’t make any sense under the law or court rules, they moved on to another excuse. After being transferred, placed on hold, hung up on, and argued with, they finally agreed to file the petition, but still refused to file the motions until they got their $2. In my experience as an attorney, including being temporarily admitted in 4 states outside Tennessee, and admitted to practice at every level of Federal and State courts, this is unheard of.

    To top off our little story, the Georgia Superior Court didn’t contact our office to tell us that there was a problem with our filing. They just sat on our petition and emergency motion. Had we not called to verify that our petition was filed we would have missed tomorrow’s filing deadline. (This is why we call to verify filings.) The $2 was personally delivered today and the emergency motions are now filed.

    One of those motions is an Emergency Motion for Stay and Preliminary Injunction prohibiting the Georgia Secretary of State from including candidate Barack Obama on the Georgia Presidential Primary ballot. Read the filing on our website. Quoting from the motion,

    “should this Court incorrectly deny this motion it would confirm that the judicial branch is now unwilling to enforce the clearest and most basic requirements of the U.S. Constitution. Harm to Petitioner that would result from such incorrect refusal to grant this motion represents nothing less than the loss of our constitutional form of government for all Americans.“


    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2...on-welden-vs-barack-obama-ga-primary-march-6/
     
    #584     Feb 28, 2012
  5. pspr

    pspr

    2/27/2012
    This week, for the first time, the results of a formal law enforcement investigation into Obama’s eligibility will be released.

    Without revealing any of the results of the investigative work done by his team over the past few months, Sheriff Joe Arpaio said “there could be a shock there somewhere that my guys came up with.”

    Arpaio constituted a special five-member law enforcement posse last year to investigate allegations brought by members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party that the Obama birth certificate released to the public by the White House on April 27 might be a forgery.

    The posse, assembled under the authority of Arpaio’s office, is made up of three former law enforcement officers and two retired attorneys with law enforcement experience. Members have been examining evidence since September concerning Obama’s eligibility to be president under Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution, which requires a president to be a natural-born citizen.

    Among other issues, there also have been allegations of Obama’s use of a Social Security number that corresponds to a Connecticut address, even though the president apparently had no links there.

    WND earlier reported a private investigation found that the Social Security number being used by Obama does not pass a check with E-Verify, the electronic system the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has created to verify whether or not someone is authorized to work legally in the country.

    Arpaio’s investigation is the first official law enforcement look at the allegations surrounding Obama’s eligibility. Many of the private investigators who have examined it contend there are too many questionable circumstances to believe that everything regarding Obama is above-board.

    Arpaio previously told WND that when he launched his Cold Case Posse it was with the possibility that he would clear Obama.

    But he said it wasn’t an issue he could ignore, after 250 members of the tea party organization “came to me and asked their sheriff to investigate Obama and the birth certificate.”


    http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/what-does-law-say-about-obamas-eligibility/

    Report to be released March 1, 2012
     
    #585     Feb 28, 2012
  6. It is hard to argue against a person who actually LIKES to be stupid, ain't it?

    Lucrum and his ilk are the reason Obama will likely get 4 more. But it is beyond his ability to digest.
     
    #586     Feb 28, 2012
  7. stu

    stu

    Sure.
    They'll ignore facts and use irrationality as a form of argument. True signs of the conspiracy theorist, from birthers to moon landing spoonbrains. Although it does seem, jem is simply, not so much a conspiracist, but from the crap he writes, just simple, in the head.
    These idiots will deserve all the years they'll get trying to oust a President with shit lists of epic fail nutwing so called eligibility claims. I think it's fair to say distracting debate from what most normal folk know to be real political issues, doesn't go down well with voters in general.
     
    #587     Feb 28, 2012
  8. I know luke and Jem aren't going to take this lying down . :( .
     
    #588     Feb 28, 2012
  9. jem

    jem

    1. We will see how the courts handle this... I have lost faith in the ability of the Plaintiff's attorney to make correct tactical decisions.

    What she needs to do now... is make a simple appeal. I doubt she did.

    What she should have done is..

    1.

    a. The Georgia law says when challenged a candidate must provide proof of eligibility - cite the law here_____________.

    b. The candidate has not submitted any evidence at all. Show the record is devoid of evidence with exhibit.

    c. Conclude

    as a matter of law... no judge can find compliance with the Georgia law when there is no evidence of compliance in the record.
    --- find cases which make the above statement... if there are any.


    (note I have seen similar appeals from magistrates rulings work in Federal court when the record is devoid of evidence.)

    d. Perhaps Taitz she should make a second argument about what natural born means.

    Thereby letting the court look balanced by accepting one argument and overuling the other.

    e. Taitz has to drop all that other circus stuff... unless she actual has proof which can survive a simple objection-- such as a foundation objection.



    2. Stu said...

    there was no default because "Judge Malihi has not subpoenaed nor ordered Obama to appear in court."

     
    #589     Feb 28, 2012