Birthers Hail Judge’s Decision That Could “Depose” Obama

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Mvector, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. jem

    jem

    Malhi stated that he would have ordinarily issued a default judgment for the plaintiffs.

    Instead of taking the default, plaintiff's stupidly insisted in putting on a circus.

    1. Any experienced trial lawyer or any intelligent lawyer knows that when the judge indicates a ruling, you do not waste his or her time and piss him off trying to impress you clients or someone else. We also know that taking a default was the proper thing to do. Especially when you have no evidence and your case is built around the idea, that the other side has the burden of producing proof.

    2. Obama still has not proffered as evidence anything, not even his birth certificate to the state election board or court in any state.

    3. Everyone knows the election board supervisor can review the record... see that obama did not submit any proof and therefore fairly determine for himself if Obama should be on the ballot or not.
    Obama did not make a record. We had a circus but no record.
    Frankly, the odds are still not good for Obama. How can you be on a ballot without submiting a shread of evidence at this stage?
    But, odds do not matter. This is politics and careers.

    State law says that Obama must submit proof of eligibility when challenged. I am sure other states have the same law.

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    Note, as Americans we did see our day in court on this issue. Something Obama loons said would never happen. That is all I ever wanted. This was a real issue. Plaintiff's lawyers were incompetent.
    But the system worked. That is a victory.

    From here on out it will be about how good the system is at getting to truth. I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot more of this.
     
    #461     Feb 5, 2012
  2. stu

    stu


    • "This Decision is entirely based on the law, as well as the evidence and legal arguments presented at the hearing." MICHAEL M. MALIHI, Judge



    ...but you still got birther gripes it seems.
     
    #462     Feb 5, 2012
  3. From what appears to be a right based website. I'm really not sure, sorry if I'm wrong on the site.

    "Well that judge in Georgia has finally put all this birther nonsense to rest. Obama is eligible to because he is a US Citizen. I’m glad we can finally quit wasting time on silly distractions that make conservatives look goofy and focus on the REAL issues. "

    http://www.politijim.com/2012/02/thats-night-that-lights-went-out-in.html

    Not hubris, not 'told you so' - simply, get back to the real issues.



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    #463     Feb 5, 2012

  4. I knew birther jem wouldn't give up LOL !!!!
     
    #464     Feb 5, 2012
  5. pspr

    pspr

    I think you are right. After the SOC makes his decision in GA the losing party will probably file an appeal.

    This is just beginning to play out in other states as well. I think we should see the end of it by November. :D
     
    #465     Feb 5, 2012
  6. Actually its ending



    2012 ballot challenges


    New Hampshire primary

    In November 2011, Taitz, backed by four New Hampshire state legislators, filed a complaint with the state's Ballot Law Commission challenging Obama's eligibility to compete in the primary election.[103] As Obama had paid the filing fee and his declaration of candidacy conformed to state law, the Commission unanimously voted to keep Obama on the ballot.[104] The Commission then denied a request for reconsideration.[105]




    Alabama primary

    A lawsuit filed by Albert Hendershot in December 2011 alleged Obama's birth certificate was forged and that he was ineligible to be on the Alabama primary ballot.[108] On January 9, 2012, Hendershot's suit was dismissed due to lack of jurisdiction, and two similar suits were filed by Harold Sorensen and another Alabama citizen from Pell City.[109] Sorensen requested that Judge Helen Shores Lee, who is black and also presided over Hendershot's suit, to recuse herself because "she has racial bias and a lack of Constitutional knowledge."[110] The Pell City suit was dismissed on January 13, 2012.[111] Sorenson's suit was dismissed for lack of jurisdiction on January 17, 2012, and the court awarded the Alabama Democratic Party its costs and fees; its attorney, however, promised not to collect the monies from Sorenson as long as he refrained from "bad-mouthing the court and this decision."[112]




    Georgia primary

    Five Georgian citizens (Carl Swensson and another Georgian represented by Georgia state representative Mark Hatfield, a Georgian represented by Taitz, and a Georgian represented by Irion) filed challenges with Brian Kemp, the Georgia Secretary of State, regarding Obama's inclusion on the ballot.[113] Deputy Chief Judge Michael Malihi, an administrative law judge, denied Obama's motion to dismiss the challenges and set a hearing for January 26, 2012.[114]

    On January 23, Malihi denied Obama's motion to quash a subpoena issued by Taitz to compel him to testify in the case. The judge wrote that "Obama’s court filings fail to show why his attendance would be 'unreasonable or oppressive' or why his testimony would be 'irrelevant, immaterial or cumulative'."[115] On January 25, in a letter to the Georgia Secretary of State, Obama's attorney requested that the proceedings be halted, and indicated that Obama would no longer be participating in the litigation.[116]

    At the January 26 hearing, Taitz called herself as a witness and claimed Obama was born in Indonesia. Taitz asked Malihi to find Obama in contempt for failing to appear.[117] On February 3, Malihi recommended that Obama remain on the ballot.[118]
     
    #466     Feb 5, 2012
  7. jem

    jem

    No gripes from me.
    We had a hearing.
    Obama produced no evidence.
    The plaintiff's lawyer's screwed up.
    That happens in court.

    Its now in the election board's hands.
     
    #467     Feb 6, 2012
  8. stu

    stu

    Wrong order.

    "The plaintiff's lawyer's screwed up."
    The plaintiff and their lawyer don't have a valid claim and they screwed up.

    "Obama produced no evidence."
    No evidence required. Fatuous and baseless birther accusations which have already screwed up time after time inside and outside court, is all the evidence it takes.


    There's no proper reason why a President should produce evidence just because a conspiracy birther wants to be able to say... "We had a hearing"
     
    #468     Feb 7, 2012
  9. But Orly presented hers.Obama shouldn't have to present anything against birthers bull shit claims
     
    #469     Feb 7, 2012
  10. And I bet your still hoping they keep Obama off the ballot LOL!!!

    As I said in the beginning of this thread...keep hope alive birther jem
     
    #470     Feb 7, 2012