Birther lawyer Taitz slapped with $20,000 sanction

Discussion in 'Politics' started by tmarket, Oct 13, 2009.

  1. dsq

    dsq

    OMG,you have a doctorate like santa and his helpers ride a sled across the sky.

    Actually,for a guy who talks about logic and then is trying to prove that obama is not born in the usa is hilarious and ignorance at its greatest.I bet you love the confederate flag and all it stands for too.Got any 9-11 conspiracies?
    You and your t bags are anathema to logic and critical thinking.Please stick to your bible and other fairy tales and dont talk about logic.
     
    #101     Oct 17, 2009
  2. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    You are low functioning. What's proof is what's acceptable to the FEC. Obviously Obama met that obligation. If you want to change the FEC requirements, be my guest. Don't argue it here in P&R, get off your ass and argue it in court, with YOUR money and YOUR time. :p
     
    #102     Oct 17, 2009
  3. No....no drinks / blood / flesh...sorry to disappoint.

    I go to the same church that Enoch and Abraham frequented.

    As far as the firey pit..I trust that G-D's mercy will endure.
     
    #103     Oct 17, 2009
  4. jem

    jem

     
    #104     Oct 17, 2009
  5. jem

    jem

    Read the statute above.

    For you commies here let me explain a statute is a law. If a law allows people who are not born in HI to get a hawaiian birth certificate upon application of someone like their mom at a later date....

    The birth certificate is not trustworthy as to the things stated upon it.

    Read it again. Obama could have been born anywhere and his mom could have applied for birth certificate at a later date and said he was born in HI.

    Why would she do that. Perhaps she figured she someday might have a custody problem with a guy from Africa.
     
    #105     Oct 17, 2009
  6. jem

    jem

    It did apply to McCain. Myself an many many others wanted to know more about his birth place.

    It may or may not have been a factor for other Presidents. But in the case of Obama we know his Dad was African and we know his mom moved all over.

    We also know he has multiple names and gone to school in foreign countries.

    He has also hidden just about all of his personal records.

    When McCain would not reveal his medical records I figured he probably had cancer or some other problem that would make us question whether he would last 4 years.

    When people go to the trouble of hiding stuff - you figure there is something to hide.

    When a major league baseball players says he takes the fifth - I figure he probably did steroids or growth hormone or something illegal - don't you.
     
    #106     Oct 17, 2009
  7. If LAW allows people who are NOT born in HI to get a Hawaiian birth certificate become a US BORN citizen (legally not actually) that will allow LEGALLY anybody including Obama become a US president.

    Assuming Obama WAS born outside of the US, his mother LEGALLY applied for the birth certificate. Obama LEGALLY became a US born citizen.
    LEGALLY born US citizen can become a US President. So professor where is the violation of the law?
     
    #107     Oct 18, 2009
  8. It's been posted many times on this site that those who cannot trade - teach.

    Same applies to those who know nothing about how to run a business or practice law.
     
    #108     Oct 18, 2009
  9. stu

    stu

    "1. Do you have any idea what the original certificate recorded by the doctors in the hospital would look like."

    Why does that matter? The document made public is a formal legal record of birth for a natural born citizen and would be recognized as evidence in any US Court of Law.

    "2. The record you are supporting even if real - purports to be made in 2007 and came from data which could have been submitted years after Obama's birth."

    "The birth certificate is not trustworthy as to the things stated upon it."

    The internet is full of allegations and unfounded accusation. It is also easy to find places where formal statements and attestations of examination and verifications by officials are available.
    Protagonists against presidential election shenanigans are there too , declaring it is a document valid and legal in confirmation of a natural born citizen.

    But as a 'birther' do you imagine certificates of live birth , or one in particular, not -can be- but are being issued illegally, because you say the "things" stated on it ( your level of legalese might need some work ) make them not trustworthy ?

    If that were so, it would not be any problem for your co-pajama interweb guerrillas who need only be slightly more active than you, to provide real evidence to convince a Court.
    "It doesn't look right on the internet"... just isn't going to do it.

    However in line with the real evidence and the formal attestations from the authorities and their officials, in response to an hysteria of unfounded allegations which you are obviously attracted toward in glorious gullibility, the document was issued under law, and has all the "things" on it according to law.

    People charged with the legal veracity of these "things" confirm they do and have checked. Bandying about 'applying later when born outside the country' or "applying years after birth" has no grounding. Vital records are confirmed by the Director of the Department of Health - to be checked and have been checked- before issuing any later documents.
    So you need hard evidence he is not telling the truth, not more wild allegations to demonstrate how baseless your conspiracies are.

    So off you go Perry Mason, try showing officials are acting criminally. Get the law changed. Have the issuing and registration of Birth Certificates altered in some way so that they can't have "things" on them.
    Although for someone who calls themselves a lawyer with "a doctorate" (lol) who didn't even know to use the word cite I'd say you're going to have a long and awkward time ahead.

    "I have a doctorate and have taught business law in College."
    I can't help feeling for those poor sods who would have the misfortune to ever come across people like you for a "teacher"?! Someone who compares Brooklyn Bridge bills of sale and a formal and legally attested Certificate of Live Birth.
     
    #109     Oct 18, 2009
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

     
    #110     Oct 18, 2009