Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by birdman, Sep 23, 2006.
Bin Laden reportedly dead of typhoid
So we gap up 20 pts Sunday at 5:00 pm CST!!!! :eek:
Web page is gone. Might be a hoax. Bbc.com has this:
Probe into 'Bin Laden death' leak
Bin Laden is blamed for attacks across the world
President Jacques Chirac has ordered an inquiry into the leak of a French secret service memo claiming that Osama Bin Laden had died.
Mr Chirac told reporters he was surprised the memo had been leaked, and refused to comment on the claim itself.
A French newspaper quoted a document as saying the Saudi secret services were convinced the al-Qaeda leader had died of typhoid in Pakistan in late August.
Officials in Pakistan and the US said they could not confirm the account.
Saudi-born Bin Laden was based in Afghanistan until the Taleban government there was overthrown by US-backed forces in 2001 after the 9/11 attacks.
Since then, US and Pakistani officials have regularly said they believe he is hiding in the lawless border area between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
His last videotaped message was released in late 2004, but several audio tapes have been released this year - the last at the end of June, in which Bin Laden praised Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, who was killed in an American air strike.
Internal organs paralysed
In its report, French regional daily L'Est Republicain said it had obtained a copy of a DGSE foreign intelligence service report dated 21 September.
"According to a usually reliable source, the Saudi services are now convinced that Osama Bin Laden is dead," it read.
"The information gathered by the Saudis indicates that the head of al-Qaeda fell victim, while he was in Pakistan on August 23, 2006, to a very serious case of typhoid that led to a partial paralysis of his internal organs."
Mr Chirac said: "I am surprised that a confidential memo from the secret services has been published, therefore I've ordered the defence minister to start an inquiry.
"As far as the information itself is concerned, it's not confirmed in any way. Therefore I have no comment at all."
The Washington-based IntelCenter, which monitors terrorism communications, said it was not aware of any similar reports on the internet.
"We've seen nothing from any al-Qaeda messaging or other indicators that would point to the death of Osama Bin Laden," director Ben Venzke told the Associated Press news agency.
Monday stocks up, dollar up, gold down? Tbonds up? What do you all think?
I agree with Fox news on this one. There aren't enough credible sources to believe this story. Market won't buy it and either do I unless there is verified info.
New York Times:
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: September 23, 2006
Filed at 12:02 p.m. ET
PARIS (AP) -- President Jacques Chirac said Saturday that information contained in a leaked intelligence document raising the possibility that Osama bin Laden may have died of typhoid in Pakistan last month is ''in no way whatsoever confirmed.''
Chirac said he was ''a bit surprised'' at the leak and has asked Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie to probe how a document from a French foreign intelligence service was published in the French press.
The regional newspaper l'Est Republicain on Saturday printed what it described as a copy of a confidential document from the DGSE intelligence service citing an uncorroborated report from Saudi secret services that the leader of the al-Qaida terror network had died.
Officials from Afghanistan to Washington expressed doubts about the report.
Two American intelligence officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue said Saturday that U.S. agencies have no evidence to suggest a reason to believe that bin Laden is dead or dying.
The DGSE transmitted the document, dated Sept. 21 or Thursday, to Chirac and other top French officials, the newspaper said.
''This information is in no way whatsoever confirmed,'' Chirac said Saturday when asked about the document. ''I have no comment.''
A senior official in Afghanistan's Foreign Ministry said he was ''very skeptical of the truthfulness'' of the document, noting past false reports of the death of bin Laden. He declined to be identified because he was not authorized to discuss the issue publicly.
In Washington, Blair Jones, a presidential spokesman, said Saturday that the White House could not confirm the accuracy of the report that bin Laden may have died.
CIA duty officer Paul Gimigliano also said he could not confirm the DGSE report.
The Washington-based IntelCenter, which monitors terrorism communications, said it was not aware of any similar reports on the Internet.
''We've seen nothing from any al-Qaida messaging or other indicators that would point to the death of Osama bin Laden,'' IntelCenter director Ben N. Venzke told The Associated Press.
Al-Qaida would likely release information of his death fairly quickly if it were true, said Venzke, whose organization also provides counterterrorism intelligence services for the American government.
''They would want to release that to sort of control the way that it unfolds. If they wait too long, they could lose the initiative on it,'' he said.
The last time the IntelCenter says it could be sure bin Laden was alive was June 29, when al-Qaida released an audiotape in which the terror leader eulogized the death of al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who was killed in a U.S. air strike in Iraq earlier that month.
Chirac spoke at a news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Compiegne, France, where the leaders were holding a summit.
Putin suggested that leaks can be ways to manipulate. ''When there are leaks ... one can say that (they) were done especially.''
Earlier the French defense ministry said it was opening an investigation into the leak.
''The information published this morning by the l'Est Republicain newspaper concerning the possible death of Osama bin Laden cannot be confirmed,'' a Defense Ministry statement said.
The DGSE, or Direction Generale des Services Exterieurs, indicated that its information came from a single source.
''According to a usually reliable source, Saudi security services are now convinced that Osama bin Laden is dead,'' said the intelligence report.
There have been periodic reports of bin Laden's illness or death in recent years but none has been proven accurate.
According to this report, Saudi security services were pursuing further details, notably the place of his burial.
''The chief of al-Qaida was a victim of a severe typhoid crisis while in Pakistan on August 23, 2006,'' the document says. His geographic isolation meant that medical assistance was impossible, the French report said, adding that his lower limbs were allegedly paralyzed.
The report further said Saudi security services had their first information on bin Laden's alleged death on Sept. 4.
In Pakistan, a senior official of that country's top spy agency, the ISI or Directorate of Inter-Service Intelligence, said he had no information to confirm bin Laden's whereabouts or that he might be dead. The official said he believed the report could be fabricated. The official was not authorized to speak publicly on the topic and spoke on condition of anonymity.
Pakistan's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Tasnim Aslam, called the information ''speculative,'' saying that Pakistan like other countries was ''clueless about him.''
Gen. Henri Bentegeat, the French army chief of staff, said in a radio debate last Sunday that bin Laden's fate remained a mystery.
''Today, bin Laden is certainly not in Afghanistan,'' Bentegeat said. ''No one is completely certain that he is even alive.''
lol trying to goose the market for the republicans.truth is bin laden dieing on his own won't be crap compare to someone killing him. also bin laden has been nothing for years there's 1000 coming every day to replace him
The only way Bin Laden dies is at the hands of the American CIA...will not have it another way...but wait...
maybe they killed him and are covering it up with the typhoid thing ...
Crude Oil futures show a trendline cross about 23 August 2006, the date in the news article. Something happened then.
Exchange rate of Pakistani Rupee against the U.S. Dollar decreased rapidly about August 2006.
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