Billionaire launches get-out-the-vote effort against Bush

Discussion in 'Politics' started by easyguru, Aug 8, 2003.

  1. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    What does this have to do with George Soros? Wrong forum buddy.
     
    #81     Oct 3, 2003
  2. Fascism is one side of the National-Socialism (Nazism) and Socialism is another side (although I would rather say an intermediate step) : that's what people doesn't seem to realise. Of course people that are socialists today are the opposite of Nazism but they don't see that it is just the same weapon of mass sociological education through extreme social assistance and so state enslavement through debts - instead of counting on true economic process - whereas facism control the state Power. In France Mitterand who has belong to extreme right wing has founded the socialist party and a socialist writer Jean Edernalier - who at the beginning as he was a convicted socialist belonged to the presidential election team of Mitterand before rejecting him after his discoveries - discovered that Mitterand was still an extremist right wing and he was threatened to death not to publish a book on that. After Mitterand's death, he published the book all the same and was found dead after being threatened again (so behind Mitterand stand an other group of extreme right wing that controlled Mitterand during his life and Presidency).

    As for Bush fascism TODAY, here's some concrete testimonies :

    http://www.greatdreams.com/security.htm

    ARE YOU GIVING UP YOUR FREEDOMS
    FOR SECURITY?

    Subject: criminalizing public dissent--fri-june 14--ohio state university

    "A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, no question about it." --
    George Walker Bush, July 26, 2000

    President Bush spoke at the Ohio State commencement ceremonies on June 14.

    Below are two stories - one from the mainstream press, and one from an eyewitness (a graduating student). Draw your own conclusions about what kind of nation we are living in.

    -- Randy Oftedahl

    "Bush urges 'culture of service' to graduates at Ohio State commencement"
    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020614/ap_to_po/bush_7

    "Bush was invited to speak at the Ohio State commencement by representatives of the graduating class. But immediately before class members filed into the giant football stadium, an announcer instructed the crowd that all the university's speakers deserve to be treated with respect and that anyone demonstrating or heckling would be subject to expulsion and arrest. The announcer urged that Bush be greeted with a "thunderous" ovation.

    And he was. When university President William Kirwan saluted Bush's response to Sept. 11, the crowd of thousands stood to applaud,whistle and cheer."

    --------------------------------------------------------------

    And how one graduate witnessed it... Posted on www.turnyourbackonbush.com

    LAST EDITED ON Jun-14-02 AT 03:59 PM (ET) As I sit here before you, I must admit I am truly exhausted from a full day. I've read the thread about Ohio State on LBN, and I am here to tell you it is true ... and then some. I'll try to hit all the details.

    And what happened to us is truly unbelieveable. We arrived at Ohio Stadium at 6am. A rally was scheduled at the Jesse Owens memorial site for that time, and the graduates were to be at their places by 6:30am. Family and friends were permitted to enter at that time as well.

    I didn't get close enough to the 6am rally, but in my search for an organizer of Turn Your Back On Bush, I did indeed hear the announcement. Graduating students were told that they would be expelled and arrested if they turned their backs. They were alerted that dozens of staff members and police officers would be watching the stands, as well as the Secret Service.

    <font color=RED>A few students asked for the definition of expulsion ... did it mean removal from the stadium or refusal of their diplomas, or both? One of the persons at the front said "Both. </font>And what will your parents do when they are paged from the crowd to bail out their son?" I do not know if this person had an official capacity with the Ohio State University or any police department.

    I must say, I did not hear that exchange. I was informed of it later when I found outside the stadium protesting. To tell these ADULTS that after 4 years and $80,000 dollars that they would be tossed aside if they didn't face a certain direction????

    I began to wonder how many of those students went to find their friends who were graduating pre-law ...

    We entered the stadium later with family and friends, and similar statements swirled around the crowd. "Please make sure you stand and loudly cheer our President. Our graduates have been requested to do the same, and have agreed to give a loud cheer for Mr. Bush", etc ...

    Once inside, we decided that it might not be a good idea to be too close to the front. We saw the lines of people waiting to get in the stadium ... and yes, we saw the yellow buses that carted them all in. I asked one of them where they were from. The woman replied "Upper Arlington". However, she could not provide a zip code when I asked her for it (the main zip code for UA is 43221). Figuring on the masses of bussed-in people, we knew it might not be wise to be up front.

    We went behind the graduates and looked for peace signs on the mortar boards (a sign that was meant to ID the Turn-Your-Backers). It was really difficult to get an accurate count, but there were a LOT of peace signs. I was sure that we weren't the only ones counting peace signs.

    It didn't take long for our stomachs to turn ... the first speaker (I believe the OSU President) began spouting about how proud they were to have Bush there. He said "We have a long tradition of inviting great men and women to speak at our commencements." I quickly responded "but since we couldn't get one, here's Georgie".

    That got the attention of the state trooper in front of us. His eyes were on me the rest of the time.

    The speech continued to mention that Chimpy was "a tireless worker in the field of education" and "a man who unified this country after the terrible events of 9/11". It was interesting to note that it took a LONG time for the 9/11 applause to turn into a standing ovation ... they held out for that one, not continuing the speech intentionally.

    About 10 minutes later, Shrub was introduced to speak. Before he even got to the stage, we did our about-face. I looked over my shoulder to see how many graduates were doing the same. However, everybody was standing at that point, and in pure black robes, it was impossible to see who was facing what direction. Furthermore, over that same shoulder, I saw one of Columbus' Finest heading our way.

    We never got to see how many students participated. We were being led out of Ohio Stadium. To the officers' credit, he realized there was a 3-year-old in my arms and was not at all hostile. I asked him if I was under arrest, and he did not answer me. When we reached the exit, I asked the SS man why we had been ejected, and he told me we were being charged with disturbing the peace. If we chose to leave, the charges would be dropped immediately.

    With our daughter in mind, we chose not to fight it. I am sure we will regret it someday when Bush's fabulous economy strikes us and we need a few million in a lawsuit. But our daughter did not need any more irritation on this day.

    On this day, June 14th, 2002, I came to the realization that we no longer live in a free society. This is rapidly heading in the same way Nazi Germany headed. Questioning our leaders is no longer the most outrageous crime you can be charged with. Not paying attention to them is.
     
    #82     Oct 4, 2003
  3. aradiel

    aradiel

    And I believe what would drive someone to prefer setting up an offshore entity over keeping things in his homeland is a motivation for a pile of benefits -tax avoiding included. :D
     
    #83     Oct 6, 2003
  4. Are discovering that Super Riches have interest in Socialo-Communism under the pretext of defending the poors - instead they are rapping the poors and the rich.

    Open your eyes and see the facts instead !

    http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/gary_allen_rocker/ch1-4.html

    "The Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations had jumped into the financing of education and the social sciences with both Left feet. For example, the foundations (principally Carnegie and Rockefeller) stimulated two-thirds of the total endowment funding of all institutions of higher learning in America during the first third of this century. During this period the Carnegie-Rockefeller complex supplied 20 % of the total income of colleges and universities and became in fact, if not in name, a sort of U.S. Ministry of Education. The result was a sharp Socialist-Fascist turn. As Rene Wormser, Counsel for the Reece Committee, reports:

    A very powerful complex of foundations and allied organizations has developed over the years to exercise a high degree of control over education. Part of this complex, and ultimately responsible for it, are the Rockefeller and Carnegie groups of foundations.

    These foundations were, by way of grants amounting to hundreds of millions of dollars, responsible for the nationwide acceptance of avowed socialist John Dewey's theories of progressive education and permissiveness -the products of which have been marching on our college campuses for the past two decades.

    Traditionalist teachers, who had been strongly resisting Deweyism, were swamped by education propagandists backed with a flood of Rockefeller-Carnegie dollars. At the same time the National Education Association, the country's chief education lobby, was also financed largely by the Rockfellers and Carnegie foundations.

    It, too, threw its considerable weight behind the Dewey philosophies. As an NEA report maintained in 1934:

    A dying laissez-faire must be completely destroyed and all of us, including the "owners," must be subjected to a large degree of social control.

    Since America's public school system was decentralized, the foundations had concentrated on influencing schools of education (particularly Columbia, the spawning ground for Deweyism), and on financing the writing of textbooks which were subsequently adopted nationwide. These foundation-produced textbooks were so heavily slanted in favor of socialism that Wormser concluded:"- It is difficult to believe that the Rockefeller Foundation and the National Education Association could have supported these textbooks. But the fact is that Rockefeller financed them and the N.E.A. promoted them very widely.-"

    ---

    "Religion is also an important molder of public opinion.

    For many years the Rockefeller Dynasty has bankrolled the Union Theological Seminary of New York, which has done so much to turn the clergy towards state socialism fascism, and to destroy the tenets of traditional Christianity. The highly influential seminary is known for turning out " Christian-Communists.

    The family's chief religious philanthropy for a number of years was the notorious Federal Council of Churches, which was pronounced by US Naval Intelligence in 1936 as one of the most dangerous, subversive organizations in the country. According to Naval Intelligence:

    It is a large radical -pacifist- organization, and probably represents 20,000,000 Protestants in the United States. However, its leadership consists of a small group which dictates its policies. It is always extremely active in any matters against national defense.

    In its many official pronouncements, the Federal Council attacked free enterprise, capitalism and the American way of life, and boldly advocated Socialism. In an official report in 1932,the Federal Council stated:

    " The Christian ideal calls for hearty support of a planned economic system.... It demands that cooperation shall replace competition as a fundamental method."
     
    #84     Nov 9, 2003
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  6. harrytrader, muchogracias for the articles:D :cool:
     
    #86     Nov 9, 2003