Billionaire Joe Lewis still long BSC @ 110?

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by turkeyneck, Mar 11, 2008.

  1. zdreg

    zdreg

    he never claimed to be a trader he is a LT investor.
    did you check the track record of his off shore funds.
    have you kept track of his predictions.

    envy knows no bounds.
     
    #31     Mar 14, 2008
  2. From Market Wizards:

    q: Did you and George make independant trading decisions?

    a: No. If you broke down the division of labor, he was the trader and I was the analyst.


    Now given that Rogers left Quantum 28 years ago I'd say that the Soros componant must have been pretty darn important, eh?
     
    #32     Mar 14, 2008

  3. He's been quite right on commodities.

    He's also still waiting for stocks to break the 1987 lows and for Bond futures to trade under 50.

    IOW's he's no better or worse than any one else out there.
     
    #33     Mar 14, 2008
  4. Cutten

    Cutten

    The issue was not whether Soros was important (duh, no kidding!). You claimed Rogers' sole contribution was marketing. Leaving aside the issue of how on earth a kid in his 20s would be of use marketing a startup hedge fund, Soros said Rogers contribution was big and he came up with lots of great investment ideas. Rogers + Soros made 40% per annum with no down years during a period where the S&P was flat. Soros without Rogers had his first down year, losing over 1/3 of fund assets shortly after he left, and his record since Rogers' departure was inferior, despite 1981 onwards being a gigantic equity bull market, giving the fund a +15% per annum market drift to benefit from.

    But please, if you have some facts to show that Rogers only did marketing during his Quantum tenure - or in fact did any marketing at all - all you have to do is cite them.
     
    #34     Mar 14, 2008
  5. Cutten

    Cutten

    Quite right, lol. What would it take for him to have been totally right, in your book? Picking the exact lows in every commodity to the hour? Obviously you have some kind of agenda with Rogers, because you are twisting the facts in a way that is plain for any neutral sane observer to see.
     
    #35     Mar 14, 2008
  6. No pain, no gain? :D
     
    #36     Mar 14, 2008

  7. I have no issue with Rogers at all. In fact I dig the whole farm boy from Alabama persona.

    OTH he's a guy who I've heard talk about rising rates for 20 years while Bond prices have been a one way street the other way.
     
    #37     Mar 14, 2008
  8. #38     Mar 14, 2008
  9. You know Pabst, I've followed Rogers a long time. He's been long bonds, and short bonds, at various times. Your statement is completely false.

    You and Landis appear to be smoking the same stuff.

    OldTrader

    Edit: By the way, he is also short the investment banks here. Don't recall if Bear Stearns was included, but chances are it was.
     
    #39     Mar 14, 2008
  10. mokwit

    mokwit

    Lewis is known to be close to Cayne. my theory is that he is a nominee and the account he is using is probably funded by someone else. Just a feeling, nothing to subsantiate. From what very little I know of Lewis this huge bet on a listed stock does not ring true. It seems not to be his style.
     
    #40     Mar 14, 2008