I keep getting ads from those guys, so I decided to give it a try, considering the fact that they have a risk free subscription. They advertise profits of ââ¦1,100% gains in 15 days, â¦1,200% gains in 7 days, â¦2,300% gains in 10 days.â They promise to double your money twice a month. Letâs analyze some of those profits, beginning with the largest one. 2,300% came from VZ April 29 Call-April 28 Put Debit spread. They call it Debit spread; in fact itâs called a risk reversal. You buy a long call and âfinanceâ it by selling a short put. In this case, the position was purchased for $0.03 per spread and sold for $0.72 per spread for a profit of $0.69 per spread. Now, based on 2,300% profit calculation, you would think that if you invested $10,000 in this position you would grow your money to $240,000, right? Wrong!!! This calculation completely ignores the margin requirement for the short put of about 20% of the underlying stock value â in our case, about $600. With $10,000, you could buy about 16 spreads, and your profit would be $1,104 (16 spreads * $69 per spread). Thatâs 11% return on $10,000 investment. Those types of spreads are about third of their positions, so you can imagine what impact all those fake percentages have on their statistics. So all those 1,200% and 2,300% gains are in fact only 10-20% return on margin on average, and in terms of growing your account, this is the only thing that matters. About 20-30% of the trades lose 80% or more, very few big real winners. They also claim that âour string of 12 winning trades handed us average profits of 423%. $1,000 in each of those trades grew into $62,760â Simple math shows that they calculate the profits based on the average gain multiplied by 12 trades ($1,000*5.23*12). That assumes that only one trade was active at any given time, which is not the case (currently they have 20 open positions). Saying that â$1,000 would grow into $62,760â is extremely misleading and completely dishonest. Bottom line: this service is a complete scam.
Honestly. Did you believe that someone who promises to double your money - twice per month - could be honest? Just the promise, all by itself, tells you they are not legit. Thanks for sharing. Mark
Mark, you are absolutely right. I just was curious how they calculate returns. Already cancelled and got a refund. What is surprising is the fact that those guys belong to InvestorPlace Media, which is considered a respectful organization. How do the agree to those kinds of lies??
I don't consider "investor place media" all that respectable for real trading anymore. Maybe good for news and analysis. But just like Cramer. Still a crap shoot. I signed up for Markman's list, another investorplacemedia "affiliate". It touted to make 50% gains in no time. It turned out to be nice fancy reports with charts from a professional >reporter< who seems fascinated with the depression era and Jesse Livermore. 90% of the picks were stopped or gapped worse. I lost pretty much the rest of my trading capital and a big chunk of my savings in a couple of weeks. Stupid me to trade more than 5% of my capital combined though my mistake... But I did something right in canceling my membership. 2c
It is of course a red flag any time an options advisory service ignores the margin requirement when computing "gains". Otherwise I'd get infinite percentage gains every time I sell a naked put.