Big Majorities Oppose Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AAAintheBeltway, Mar 27, 2006.

  1. I would really like to say, "Let's legalize all the current illegal immigrants," because it's probably cheaper than trying to round them up and deport them.

    Unfortunately, until we prevent any further illegal immigration from Mexico, legitimizing the current resident illegals only stimulates continued illegal immigration.

    And, sadly, the only thing that prevents Mexico from a serious revolution is that the Mexicans who can no longer stand living in Mexico have an escape route to economic freedom -- they come to the USA.

    I was just in Cabo San Lucas last week. It was the first time I had been deep into Mexico in almost 30 years. I was amazed that nothing had changed.

    There are still only two classes of Mexicans -- the ultra wealthy and the ultra poor. Mexico's rich oligarchies continue to exploit the masses by paying them nothing. Consequently, the working class lives off of the tips that they earn from the tourists, while the wealthily Mexicans take the gringo's big resort money and pocket it.

    It is an amazing thing to see perfectly manicured resort landscapes only a few feet from aluminum sheet shacks, but that remains the standard of living in Mexican society.

    We maintain this sickening dichotomy by permitting almost unfettered immigration into the U.S. If we didn't, the Mexican workers would revolt, because they would have no choice, and who knows what would happen to Mexico.

    I wonder if we actually did stop permitting the immigration, just how long it would take before the people of Mexico would pull out Madame Guillotine and start cuttin' heads?

    Sometimes I think maybe we should encourage a revolution there, and then annex a little more land while it's happening.

    Lots of terrific beachfront property in Mexico -- we should try to get a little more. Then, maybe the Mexicans who live in the USA right now, might start heading back and the problem would take care of itself.
     
    #21     Mar 27, 2006
  2. achilles28

    achilles28

    The only thing those pole numbers demonstrate: Bush doesn't give a fig what Americans want or think.

    He and his kin have sold you out.

    Wake up.


    This oozing criminality from the White House down, is not going to stop until YOU draw a line in the sand.
     
    #22     Mar 28, 2006
  3. sounds like a familiar strategy. anyway, where were these concerns 5 years ago? their policies haven't changed one iota since day one -- all of a sudden NOW it's a crisis? why now?

    they had bush speaking today - he actually advocated continuing the current policy of ignoring the law and the interests of the citizens he "represents" on the basis of their favorite hollow assertion that "americans won't do those jobs" -- even given that it's bush, it's hard to fathom the president of the US really making such an offensive statement.
     
    #23     Mar 28, 2006
  4. achilles28

    achilles28

    Because its an election year and politicians are whores.



    Why is it so hard to believe a guy who has sold this nations security out to Corporate plutocrats, would flaunt it in your face?

    Obviously, Bush is a congenital scumbag whose only interest is in setting this country up for a gangrape by his Corporate Masters.
     
    #24     Mar 28, 2006


  5. Because there are too many conservatives now protesting to ignore it. Bush certainly doesn't care about illegals. He doesn't care about traditional conservatives either. Unfortunately for him, traditional conservatives still form the greater part of his base. But if he keeps bringing in more family-value-lovin', gang-bangin' Mexicans, maybe he just ditch his base altogether.

    And if you look at Bush's warped immigration "reform" strategy, you could be forgiven for thinking that's exactly what he intends to do.

    The cheek of the immigration movement beggars belief, with this "guest worker" program. They're allowed to work legally for, what five years or whatever it is... and then what? Will they have to leave the country? Will their status revert back to illegal if they don't? If not, "guest worker" is just a more palatable way of saying "amnesty".

    Then, apparently, the bills being proposed want to increase legal immigration by a staggering one million per year. Double the current rate, that is already far, far too high.

    People just don't get it. Immigration might be (really though, it's not) what made America, but it will also be her unmaking. Just stay tuned.
     
    #25     Mar 28, 2006


  6. I never figured for you such a liberal at heart, Pabst. Is it really America's job to feed Mexico? Surely not more so than it's your job to feed Chicago's disfunctional south-siders, wouldn't you agree? Wouldn't a conservative wish to see Mexicans get their own house in order rather than rely on the "release valve" of immigration that helps ensure nothing ever really changes?

    And why just stop with Mexico? There are millions more who'd like to benefit from your generosity, too. Why not do as the WSJ demands and simply open the borders to all? Of course, as I mentioned to you in the other thread, with so much immigration, American will eventually stop being anything recognizably American (because, sadly, all people were not created equal), but that doesn't seem to be any concern of yours.

    If you'd claim it's some special "brotherhood" with Mexico, beyond geographical happenstance, that leads you to single Mexicans out for your generosity, wouldn't it be better to develop such a brotherhood first? For there is little in the history of US-Mexican relations to suggest it currently exists.
     
    #26     Mar 28, 2006
  7. This thing is heating up. The demonstators are getting more and more aggressive, even beating up those who dare to take a different view. Guess they haven't quite assimilated and learned our traditions. I suppose they'll be rioting under Mexican flags soon. Too bad they can't get more worked up over their own corrupt government in good old Mexico.

    Now the Senate Judiciary Committee approved an amnesty provision sponsored by Sens. McCain and Kennedy. McCain accolyte Lindsey Graham joined dem's on the Committee in supporting it.

    In opposition is Majority Leader Frist, who has proposed an enforcement only provision. Either bill would have to be reconciled with the tough provision already passed by the House.

    This is clearly setting up as a battle between potential presidential candidates McCain and Frist. McCain is a savvy media hound and will have the liberal media backing his position. Frist has staked out an uncharacteristically bold position in opposition to President Bush and McCain. Clearly the voters support his stance, but he will have to deliver on it. Another namby pamby compromise like he accepted on judicial filibusters will do nothing for his image with the increasingly dissatisfied conservatives.

    Stay tuned. This could turn ugly.
     
    #27     Mar 28, 2006
  8. So, you have a problem with them carrying the Mexican flag.

    Would you have the same problem if a group from the south were protesting, carrying the Confederate flag?

     
    #28     Mar 28, 2006
  9. Not at all. Why? Because they would be American citizens lawfully exercising a basic constitutional right. These are lawbreakers who have the gall to threaten us in our own country in vast mobs under another country's flag. If we had a real President, he would have them all arrested and deported.
     
    #29     Mar 28, 2006
  10. So Bush is not a real president?

    Hmmm. That's what Gore said about Bush.

    So have many of us since 2000.

     
    #30     Mar 28, 2006