Big bad day, coming soon.....

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Optionpro007, Jul 14, 2005.

  1. The link to UPI shows the reporting agency that reported the backpack radiological device story from my earlier post-----------it had the UPI press logo for the story. This link to UPI was to show "Cable" the reporting agency of the story--------so Cable could see the story did not just come from some crack pots webpage.

    The book links where there to illustrate that the suitcase news is and has been out there and investigated for some time know by private sources.

    Other related recent news items-------


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    Tancredo to request
    al-Qaida nuke briefing
    Congressman to ask Justice Department for report on 'American Hiroshima' plan

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    Posted: July 13, 2005
    1:00 a.m. Eastern



    © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

    WASHINGTON – Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., a staunch critic of the federal government's lax immigration and border enforcement policies, said yesterday he would request a briefing from the Justice Department on information it has on plans revealed by WND this week for a nuclear attack on the U.S. by al-Qaida terrorists.


    Rep. Tom Tancredo

    Tancredo said he was greatly alarmed by the report and would seek whatever information he could get from the nation's law enforcement authorities – either in classified or unclassified reports.

    Tancredo also plans to meet with the author of a book that provides new evidence al-Qaida has used the insecure Mexican border to bring nuclear devices into the country along with thousands of sleeper agents.

    Al-Qaida's plans, known as "America's Hiroshima" according to captured terrorists and terrorist documents, calls for the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons, already in the possession of Osama bin Laden's operatives currently inside the U.S. The agents and arms having been smuggled across the U.S.-Mexico border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups, according to the report originating in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, a premium, online intelligence newsletter published by the founder of WND.


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    © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com


    WASHINGTON – As London recovers from the latest deadly al-Qaida attack that killed at least 50, top U.S. government officials are contemplating what they consider to be an inevitable and much bigger assault on America – one likely to kill millions, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

    According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "American Hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.

    Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union – including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market.

    In addition to detonating its own nuclear weapons already planted in the U.S., military sources also say there is evidence to suggest al-Qaida is paying former Russian special forces Spetznaz to assist the terrorist group in locating nuclear weapons formerly concealed inside the U.S. by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Osama bin Laden's group is also paying nuclear scientists from Russia and Pakistan to maintain its existing nuclear arsenal and assemble additional weapons with the materials it has invested hundreds of millions in procuring over a period of 10 years.

    The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the U.S., which is seen by al-Qaida and its allies as "the Great Satan."

    At least half the nuclear weapons in the al-Qaida arsenal were obtained for cash from the Chechen terrorist allies.

    But the most disturbing news is that high level U.S. officials now believe at least some of those weapons have been smuggled into the U.S. for use in the near future in major cities as part of this "American Hiroshima" plan, according to an upcoming book, "The Al Qaeda Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," by Paul L. Williams, a former FBI consultant.

    According to Williams, former CIA Director George Tenet informed President Bush one month after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that at least two suitcase nukes had reached al-Qaida operatives in the U.S.

    "Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons," wrote Williams. "One suitcase bore the serial number 9999 and the Russian manufacturing date of 1988. The design of the weapons, Tenet told the president, is simple. The plutonium and uranium are kept in separate compartments that are linked to a triggering mechanism that can be activated by a clock or a call from the cell phone."

    According to the author, the news sent Bush "through the roof," prompting him to order his national security team to give nuclear terrorism priority over every other threat to America.

    However, it is worth noting that Bush failed to translate this policy into securing the U.S.-Mexico border through which the nuclear weapons and al-Qaida operatives are believed to have passed with the help of the MS-13 smugglers. He did, however, order the building of underground bunkers away from major metropolitan areas for use by federal government managers following an attack

    Bin Laden, according to Williams, has nearly unlimited funds to spend on his nuclear terrorism plan because he has remained in control of the Afghanistan-produced heroin industry. Poppy production has greatly increased even while U.S. troops are occupying the country, he writes. Al-Qaida has developed close relations with the Albanian Mafia, which assists in the smuggling and sale of heroin throughout Europe and the U.S.

    Some of that money is used to pay off the notorious MS-13 street gang between $30,000 and $50,000 for each sleeper agent smuggled into the U.S. from Mexico. The sleepers are also provided with phony identification, most often bogus matricula consular ID cards indistinguishable from Mexico's official ID, now accepted in the U.S. to open bank accounts and obtain driver's licenses.

    The Bush administration's unwillingness to secure the U.S.-Mexico border has puzzled and dismayed a growing number of activists and ordinary citizens who see it as the No. 1 security threat to the nation. The Minuteman organization is planning a major mobilization of thousands of Americans this fall designed to shut down the entire 2,000-mile border as it did in April with a 23-mile stretch in Arizona.

    According to Williams' sources, thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their individual roles in the coming "American Hiroshima" plan.

    Bin Laden's goal, according to the book, is to kill at least 4 million Americans, 2 million of whom must be children. Only then, bin Laden has said, would the crimes committed by America on the Arab and Muslim world be avenged.

    There is virtually no doubt among intelligence analysts al-Qaida has obtained fully assembled nuclear weapons, according to Williams. The only question is how many. Estimates range between a dozen and 70. The breathtaking news is that an undetermined number of these weapons, including suitcase bombs, mines and crude tactical nuclear weapons, have already been smuggled into the U.S. – at least some across the U.S.-Mexico border.

    The future plan, according to captured al-Qaida agents and documents, suggests the attacks will take place simultaneously in major cities throughout the country – including New York, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles.

    In response to the G2 Bulletin revelations, Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, a citizen action group demanding the U.S. government take control of its borders, said an immediate military presence on the borders is now imperative "to stop the overwhelming influx of unidentified, potentially hostile and seditious persons coming across at an alarming rate."

    "Terrorists have carte blanche to carry practically anything they want across our national line at this time," he said. "As ordinary citizens have warned this government for years, the only surprising part about the new information reported here is that nothing apocalyptic from Mexican-border weapons trafficking has yet happened. Terrorism has reared its ugly head in London again these past few days, and as we know all too well we are not immune in this country. At this point, the next attempt to attack America at home is just a matter of 'when,' not 'if.' And our unsecured borders have surely contributed to this threat – yet our government officials continue to fiddle while our nation's margin of security and safety burns away. The president and Congress had better wake up before they have to answer for another devastating terrorist incursion on our own soil."

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    Just some tip of the iceberg information --------- I will get more news agency stamped info for you later after I get something to eat------- I am hungry. :)
     
    #31     Jul 14, 2005
  2. TGregg

    TGregg

    World Net Daily, I shoulda guessed that at the start.

    Well, here's the link.

    Ultimately, their only source is something called:

    "Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin", whatever that is.

    And that story reads like a Clancy novel. You need a program to keep all the players straight:

    Osama "Camel Humpin" Bin Laden
    Al-Qaida
    Their Chechen terrorist allies
    The notorious MS-13 street gang
    The Albanian Mafia

    I tell ya, there's nothing like huge, massive conspiracies with hundreds of people all keeping it secret. If I were the forum mod, I'd delete all the references in this thread to this story.
     
    #32     Jul 14, 2005
  3. Sam123

    Sam123 Guest

    Nukes are easy to detect. Don't worry about it. Not gonna happen. Besides, just one of our submarines can destroy every single thing Osama bin Laden cares about, and every single thing his millions of supporters care about, and they all know it. In order for the terrorist tactic to work, the Islamists must maintain a political moral high ground in the eyes of the apologetic Western Left, to maintain confusion, disunion and weakness in the West. Nuclear terrorism would simply unite the West and make it strong, and the Islamist's global strategy is toast. Those bastards know it and that's why nuclear terrorism won't happen, aside from the technical difficulties.

    Bush is neither an apologist nor an appeaser, and one important reason why the S&P broke its resistance at his reelection and why it bounced to a higher high after the London disaster. Equity indices are about the health of companies. But if Western governments appease enemies, nothing matters.
     
    #33     Jul 14, 2005
  4. My question was relative to oil, but anyway,

    In the long run, a cap at $70.00 I can agree with, but the circumstances right now indicate much higher oil prices for the forseeable future. Evidenced by the fact that vast new economies are entering the capitalist world at the same time and that we are years away from being able to supply a different source of energy at the consumer level.
    :(

    So in theory we could have oil do what gold did at the end of the 70's.
    Go thru the roof....?
     
    #34     Jul 14, 2005
  5. TGregg------------ Actually I listened to the congressman noted in the article from a radio interview with the press yesterday, and that got me to start looking into the recent uptick in this suitcase nuke news. If you call the congressmen's office you will see that this is not just a "little deal" to certain members of our elected government.

    The writer from WorldNetDaily is well known throughout the DC loop, and he is at times noted for some of his stories on the Sunday morning political discussion shows.

    On CSPAN recently there has been various testimony to House and Senate committees about this and other very important intelligence issues.

    This is not an issue where the U.S. gets to make a mistake----------there is NO hedge for the type of instant social and political breakdown that will occur if nuclear weapons are used in the U.S. on the scale as described in letters and writings from osama. I actually think it is our duty to our children, friends, and family to take this type of threat very seriously. If a group of congressmen in DC want immediate hearings and investigations into this matter--------------I say about time and lets see what the facts are!
     
    #35     Jul 15, 2005
  6. time to move this thread to chit chat
     
    #36     Jul 15, 2005
  7. Moreagr

    Moreagr

    I believe bio fuels will come into play when crude oil ranges between $70-$100.
     
    #37     Jul 15, 2005
  8. Chagi

    Chagi

    I really hope that we won't see this "nuclear terrorism" come to pass, for a variety of reason. It would lead to terrible loss of life, not to mention future health issues relating to the areas in question.

    But more importantly, it would really take the gloves off, and you just know that the American people would be screaming for revenge of some form.

    If we are going to live in a world with nukes, they belong in the hands of rational individuals that are (hopefully) unlikely to ever actually use them, due to things like mutually assured destruction.
     
    #38     Jul 15, 2005
  9. M Vega

    M Vega

    How do you guys come up with 20bagpack bombs? This isn't written in any of the articles you referred to!
    By the way: The bagpack bombs are old news...
     
    #39     Jul 15, 2005
  10. If even one nuke goes off in America, each and every Arab in the USA
    will have both his/her arms cut off immediately.

    Hard to set off bombs without any hands to do it with...

    It will be like... one big de-arming party... :cool:


    P.S. This thread does need to go to chit chat. It is schizo for one thing.
    One part terrorist-bomb and the other oil-gold-what's going to happen tomorrow bs...
     
    #40     Jul 15, 2005