Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Sep 9, 2021.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    I totally understand what the messaging is but the legal argument they make in court may be something totally different. Who knows though, the Biden administration may argue OSHA has the brute force to impose a vaccine mandate but to me that does not explain the testing component. If they could just mandate a vaccine requirement, why putz around with the testing alternative.

    Legally, the testing is a slam dunk but without a law passed by Congress I don’t know how much an actual vaccine mandate will hold up in court. The key here is vaccination being an alternative to the testing. At least in my mind. If the Biden team pushes the brute force approach through a federal rule, they very well could lose.

    Ok, the government doesn’t need agreement to impose a rule. However, I am not familiar with federal rule making procedures and what can be suspended etc. Yes, I too would be be pissed if I faced fines for unvaccinated employees. What I will say is that the Biden team is not the Trump team. They are going to be ready for all of this and I expect they worked out these legal kinks.

    Also, it’s the unsaid thing that most and I do mean most employers are secretly glad for this. They don’t want Covid in their businesses, they work their too. If make over $100k you’re vaccination rate is the highest in America. Plus it brings stability to your business.

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    Private businesses being able to remove unvaccinated employees is not the federal government’s doing. The feds are saying tests but will accept vaccination in lieu, or pay a fine. How you handle unvaccinated employees is your business. Courts have already told unvaccinated workers they can go kick rocks if they get fired. That’s all.
     
    #81     Sep 10, 2021
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #82     Sep 10, 2021
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  3. userque

    userque

    Additionally, and imo's:
    It's better than nothing.

    Larger employers are better able to absorb the costs/disruptions associated with employees getting the jab.

    Larger employers are more likely to get it done sooner.

    The returns start to diminish near the 100 employee mark.
     
    #83     Sep 10, 2021
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  5. UsualName

    UsualName

    :thumbsup:
     
    #85     Sep 10, 2021
  6. userque

    userque

    Look at the 'filing date.'

    The priority date is something different.
     
    #86     Sep 10, 2021
  7. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Fauci, July 2020: National Vaccine Mandates Would Be “Encroaching Upon A Person’s Freedom” to make their own choice about their own health.

     
    #87     Sep 10, 2021
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  8. What is it, then? It's not clear from the pubmed entry.
     
    #88     Sep 10, 2021
  9. userque

    userque

    That, by definition, is what a mandate is all about.
     
    #89     Sep 10, 2021
  10. userque

    userque

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    #90     Sep 10, 2021