Biden was right: MAGA ideology is fascism

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Sep 2, 2022.

  1. wildchild

    wildchild

    This topic is hilarious.
     
    #71     Sep 4, 2022
  2. Good1

    Good1

    Now that Biden has backtracked, i'm re-joining the mega MAGAs. I don't have an F-15 but that's ok, i don't think those tough looking U.S. Marines that backed up Biden's unity speech will be getting any orders to storm our houses...just former U.S. President Donald Trump's houses.
     
    #72     Sep 4, 2022
  3. so what if T set up a media company (sic - social media platform actually) and find one place where Trump himself (not a CNN accusation but ACTUALLY VIDEO) promotes violence. I saw the actual talk he gave on Jan. 6 and he specifically called for protestors to maintain peace and go home peaceful. He definitely, clearly advocated to remain peaceful. I'm not a Trump fan - I think he's a vax pushing tool for big pharma - but that's what happened.




    Again, simply hearsay. Just CNN bogus talking points. He objects to the election and thinks it was fraudulent - JUST AS THE DEMOCRATS HAVE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES about other elections (ie, Gore v Bush and Trump v Clinton). And it's perfectly fine for the Dems to make those accusations. They're not proved, but they have the right to think whatever they want.
     
    #73     Sep 4, 2022
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  4. Overnight

    Overnight

    If I didn't know any better, I'd say that is racist! lol!

     
    #74     Sep 4, 2022
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  5. Good1

    Good1

    According to a recent source,

    under communism:
    Government owns and controls the means of production (all the corporations).

    under fascism:
    Government controls those corporations which own the means of production.

    Under fascism, it's easier to blame the corporation(s) if anything goes wrong.

    Whether fascism is inherently left or right, the source suggested it was first applied to a leftist leaning government in the '20s, but may also have been applied to Hitler's government, which was modeled on Mussolini's.

    Source might have been this discussion:




    Source might have been Thomas Sowell. Supposedly, Marx's idea was to go socialist first, then full on communist. In theory, Hitler's government was socialist.
     
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    #75     Sep 4, 2022
  6. VicBee

    VicBee

    The electoral college is a fundamental flaw of our system, demanded by the powerful to ensure protection of their interests against majority rule. It seems unbelievable that the country that most fervently promotes democracy in the world doesn't have the most basic element of democratic principle: one person, one vote.

    To suggest that convoluted electoral processes essentially result in some voters anointed by political parties to determine the outcome of elections seem preposterous. In fact, the electoral college system has failed us 5 times since the founding of the nation.
    It doesn't matter which party it helped win, what matters is that the process is so flawed that the outcome didn't represent the will of the people. It's saying that it doesn't matter if you vote and who you vote for because the winner has already been decided. It justifiably sows discontent and feeds the accusations of government corruption that fringes on the right and the left use to call for the overthrow of government.

    Today it should be easy to have a statewide or even national voting mechanism to eliminate quirky local voting rules. There's nothing wrong with using nationally standardizing equipment and processes to eliminate cheating. Voters should be able to cast a vote online, tallied until the last vote of the last time zone are in and the result announced at that time. No more hours of media fluff during elections, no more days waiting for the last county is done counting paper votes and not more electoral voters.
     
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    #76     Sep 4, 2022
  7. Sprout

    Sprout

    In Jan 6 ellipse speech, DT said "fight" 20 times, he mentioned "peaceful" 1x. That's a fact.


    I have no idea. I don't watch CNN. DT filed over 60 court cases, all dismissed for lack of evidence. That's a fact.

    When the Democrats lost, they didn't incite a riot that breached the capital as an attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power where 5 people lost their lives. The riot is a fact. Whether he orchestrated it is alleged.

    By your responses, you've clearly not watched the sworn testimony documented in by the Jan 6th committee. Sworn testimony is admissible in a court of law, all the opinion based commentary that attempts to cast doubt is not.

    The Jan6th committee hearings has been the only congressional hearing that I've witness that wasn't a circus with grandstanding for sound bites.

    As more and more fact based physical evidence comes to light, it's becoming clear that DT organized and executed an attempted coup to remain in power fraudulently. There are sitting members of congress complicit, the short list are those that asked for a pardon before he left office.

    I have no idea how you can listen to the recorded call of DT with Raffensperger and continue to believe in DT's rhetoric and lies.
     
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    #77     Sep 4, 2022
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  8. VicBee

    VicBee

    I know, right? Seems ok to say that about Spanish speaking Central Americans but feels totally offensive to say it about Irish or English descendents.
     
    #78     Sep 4, 2022
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    Nah, we are all equally worthless. Hoo rah!

     
    #79     Sep 4, 2022
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  10. Good1

    Good1

    The number of electors are set by the ten year census.

    Therefor, it favors the older voters in any particular state.
    Therefor, it favors those citizens who are most deeply vested in the welfare of the state.
    Therefor, it prevents migratory gerrymandering.
    Therefor, you have to persist at migratory gerrymandering for ten to twenty years to have the effect desired.

    What is you're problem with this?

    We already favor older voters.
    The 26th Amendment lowered the age to 18.
    Therefor, we still discriminate against those under 18.
    I don't hear you speaking up for them.
    Technically, we should not be discriminating this way, since now, those under 18 are being heavily taxed due to overspending.
    That's basically taxation without representation.

    The solution is to allow parents to vote for their children under 18.
     
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    #80     Sep 4, 2022