Ryan is a little gayboy. Who the fuck wants this prissy little fag in the White House? Besides Lucrum.
That depends on who's "facts" you believe. I had a hard time determining who won because of the childish behavior demonstrated by Biden (yes, I do know it's old school politics, but this country is seriously fucked right now, and maybe the bullshit should be set aside, just for a short while).
My opinion: Ryan lost the debate. He had several openings to completely bash the admin and DID NOT take them.. i don't know why but the only reason i can think of is the Romney campaign wants to save the ammo for the next Pres debate. Also, biden at one point, about midway, looked like a complete asshole for a few minutes. He was openly disrespectful and would not let Ryan finish.. the moderator was a total cunt as well. She cut off Ryan 3 or 4 times and i didn't hear her cut off biden ONCE. She had a really snippy line to Ryan once as well. Basically i don't think Ryan did a very good job but damn, a couple of times it seemed like 2 v 1 to me. I think biden went too far and came across as an obnoxious cocksucker.
I've been watching politics for a long time and Biden has always had that shit eating grin, he didn't do it just for Ryan.
At least we have some people who can admit that thier side loss The left including myself and the MSMBC crew all admitted Obama loss the debate to Romney
Charles Krauthammer has an interesting take. If you read the debate on a transcript it is a tie. If you heard it on the radio, Biden won. If you watched it on TV, Biden's demeanor was so bad, Ryan won. In short, unless you were really pissed at the way Biden acted, the debate will have no effect on the outcome of the election.
I agree with your assessment. Ryan probably lost, but it would have been a much bigger victory for Biden if he had not acted like such a prick. That's what I'm going to remember the most, as will many independents. We already have enough assholes in politics.