Biden expected to announce $10,000 student loan forgiveness

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tony Stark, Aug 23, 2022.

  1. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Progs of those days would be harassed as right of center conservatives by Cornel West on Twitter.

    LBJ was a racist and got CRA passed, brb its meaningless.
     
    #231     Jun 30, 2023
  2. Sprout

    Sprout

    It's not as simple as your sound bite makes it out to be.
     
    #232     Jun 30, 2023
  3. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Johnson was a man of his time, and bore those flaws as surely as he sought to lead the country past them. For two decades in Congress he was a reliable member of the Southern bloc, helping to stonewall civil rights legislation. As Caro recalls, Johnson spent the late 1940s railing against the "hordes of barbaric yellow dwarves" in East Asia. Buying into the stereotype that blacks were afraid of snakes (who isn't afraid of snakes?) he'd drive to gas stations with one in his trunk and try to trick black attendants into opening it. Once, Caro writes, the stunt nearly ended with him being beaten with a tire iron.

    https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lyndon-johnson-civil-rights-racism-msna305591

    CRA meaningless according to Tony and Cuddles, another prog hero falls.
     
    #233     Jun 30, 2023
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I don't hold allies of the past to the same moral standards of today. I'm not into purity tests

    The exception here of course is to living "allies" purporting one thing despite their past, then flip flopping to a past position.

    What amendments did dems get that were worth 200k Iraqi civilians again?
     
    #234     Jun 30, 2023
  5. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    As I showed, LBJ stood with racists for two decades and then went on to pass CRA and not just that he was forceful in implementing it.

    But with your and Tony's standards, everyone should have voted against LBJ if he ran for second term by calling his efforts meaningless flip flops.

    And by the way, Iraq invasion would have never happened under Gore, that's very easily forgotten. Not only was he opposed to it from the start, there was no Cheney to orchestrate the whole thing so save me the virtue signaling about dead Iraqi civilians. Those who voted Nader are responsible for it.
     
    #235     Jun 30, 2023
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I'm not saying anyone should vote against Biden so dunno why you keep harping that talking point.

    Shame about SCROTUS deciding that election though, if only we could armchair quarterback the appointment of those seats.

    I'm not virtue signaling about Iraqi deaths. You brought up not giving a fuck if a bill/resolution gets passed if we get our amendments in, so what was it that was worth those deaths and invasion? I'm open to listening about this marvel that was worth it.
     
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    #236     Jun 30, 2023
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    He later became a strong supporter of civil rights and got medicare passed.If a politician says they have changed Ill give them a 2nd chance .I gave Biden a 2nd chance in 2020 when he said he had changed from the racist right wing piece of shit he had been his entire career.You only fool me once though.
     
    #237     Jun 30, 2023
  8. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Who said this was about voting for Biden? You could be saying the same thing about Obama or Clinton and I would make the same argument.

    And the Iraq war bill was passed based on lies and blackmail over 9/11 emotions, it wasn't about amendments. Not everything is about amendments, you just want me to reply to a strawman.
     
    #238     Jun 30, 2023
  9. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    So now Biden is a racist because he couldn't get Police Reform passed in a Senate where Booker and Tim Scott - both of them black - couldn't agree on the content of the bill?

    Booker and Scott are racists too?
     
    #239     Jun 30, 2023
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    you did:
    unless you're suddenly not drawing on analogies?

    No, I want you to back up your words:

     
    #240     Jun 30, 2023
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