Best Way to Get Started!

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by Baker_Trader, Feb 11, 2003.

  1. Hello everyone!

    I am fairly new to this forum!

    I need all of you input on how i should get started Day Trading Futures? I am 19 years old at the moment. Well Trained in Trading Stocks (Nasdaq-NYSE) And i want to pursue a career in the Stock market! Mainly i want to become a E-Mini Day Trader. But i realize i will fail if i get right into Trading E-minis, so what should i do? How much should i save up? 25k,30k 50k???
    What im worried about is Day Trading will no longer be profitable! Like in 5 years or so? What careers can i pursue in the stock market? My dream is to become a Day Trader, but im just worried it will not be profitable whem im ready to start? What do you all think?

    Im mainly asking, where should i start? What should i start to trade with?

    Any help would be just great guys?
  2. bobcathy1

    bobcathy1 Guest

    All I can tell you is....
    The only constant in life is change.

    When you are ready, there are a million ways to make money in the market. It changes all the time.....I have in three years been in 3 different markets.

    You can start with 4k in a small futures account......but first get your method down cold in paper trading. To the point you can do it in your sleep.:)
  3. Assuming current conditions persist, count on around 2-3 years to really find yourself and your method/s... if you still have any capital left after that, then you are ready to roll...

    If you want to speed up the process, find a mentor you can sit with every day...
  4. Thanks moderator for removing the SPAM that redtrader had introduced to this thread...
  5. Your only 19 years old...

    What do you mean by well trained in trading stocks?'ve made a few hundred dollars, thousands of dollars...have a mentor (highly recommended)...already a profitable consistent trader...what exactly do you mean?

    First of can start by getting a Futures an account and put enough money in it to trade several contracts eventhough your only going to be trading one contract of ES (this will also allow you to have enough money to trade NQ when NQ has a trade setup and ES doesn't and allow you to keep trading for awhile if you have a few bad trading days).

    Next...ask your broker to send you all information they have about trading Eminis (I've mentioned this to you in a prior reply to your questions).

    Remember this...being well trained doesn't mean your able to make consistent'll just have a shorter learning curve and quicker road to profits.

    If you are or were making consistent profits while trading stocks...

    start trading the Eminis via a realtime simulator (notice how I didn't say paper trading...writing down Bid and Ask) or trading with real money via one contract.

    By the end of the year...if your profitable with one contract...your ahead of most (I didn't say all) here at that trades the Eminis. year about this time...if your profitable...move up to 3 contracts.

    The following year...move up to 6 contracts. said your 19 years old and wanting to save up the money.

    Now you have a way to earn that money. 25k,30k 50k or whatever it is that someone convinces you is adequate enough.

    Hopefully, by the time you your closing in on your 25th birthday you will not only be well trained in the Eminis...

    you'll also be a profitable trader making a living at it.

    I will also add...start with ES. On occassion, only trade the NQ when the NQ has the better trade setup while ES is showing nothing.

    Since your new...start slow and keep it simple. In other words...don't try any fancy trading stuff.

    Last of all, read carefully the Psychology forum thread here at

    Why do I say this...

    the biggest threat to your potential success is not the's you.

    I'm still curious about what you mean by well trained. Hopefully you didn't mean you've read a few books on the subject.

    Once again...use your Futures Broker, use the Search menu here at, start with 1 contract and gradually work you way up to multiple contracts and never stop learning about yourself as a trader as you interact with the markets every time you open up your brokers trade execution platform.

    If your looking to be spoon fed...I suggest you open a Futures account with someone that will guide you through the process for awhile (commissions will be higher).

    When you feel like you know enough...look for a broker with lower commissions and used them as your primary broker while using that first broker as your secondary broker (don't close the account).

    Read the the following threads here very carefully...Journals, Psychology, Hardware, Software and of course the Futures forum thread.

    If your in college and at the same time you are very serious about day trading...use the search menu here because there was a thread about Universities that offer or have trading rooms for day traders.

    P.S. I highly recommend you spend more time exploring the resources your broker has and prior info here at before asking any more questions.

    All the questions you have asked so far have been asked so many times before here at ET...its almost funny.

  6. I agree, except I do not find it funny at all. It is as if people want the answers given to them nowadays, without ever trying to figure out how to solve the problem.
  7. The markets will be here in 5 years. They will not be exactly what they are now. They certainly are not now what they were 5 years ago. Nobody, on here, or anywhere else can precisely tell you what the markets will be in 5 years, or even 5 weeks.

    That's what you really need to know: that learning to play the market is like learning to swim in a current. People can tell you their own experiences, but you're going to either sink or swim on your own efforts. Unless you have a PROVEN FORMULA™ :p WARNING: don't click this link if you're paranoid about gator plugs or can't take a joke!

    I suggested to you earlier to check out the SSF rather than the E-minis for now. My recommendation of how you should get learning the market is by starting with SMALL NIBBLES, and get a good taste for the whole thing. You can do this with SSF. And since they're about as new as you are, there really isn't anyone much more experienced than you. There isn't alot of prechewed information or theory. But they are just like trading 100 shares of stock, for the most part --- without the PDT restrictions.
  8. Momento


    i would strongly suggest you to get a side job, part time night job or something, so that you won't be so stressed out at first about paying your rent, and over-heads. (assuming that you are living on your own) :cool:

    I started when i was 19, and it is still the best thing i have ever got myself, the knowledge to trade.

    Good luck boy!
  9. Well said and I agree with you, too.
  10. Yeah... knowledge is a great thing, and I love it, too. It makes you feel good, doesn't it.
    #10     Feb 12, 2003