09-02-05 05:22 PM So....what exactly are you bringing to the table besides some math degree? Well a lot, the math degree is the least of my skills. Most importantly I am bringing to the table the traits necessary to succeed in the markets and the willingness to do so. I worked full time at nite and went to school half time during the day, and still managed to explore and pursue a career in trading. From the dozens of books I have read and my own personal experience trading I have a pretty good idea what it takes to succeed. Right now I just need to get with the right firm and be a part of the right team in order to get it all put together for me. The last thing I want to be is some dime a dozen market maker or sales trader that is soon to be replaced by a computer. I mean it looks like the NYSE is going to become a wax museam soon. Why the coveted 300K? It's not coveted, that ant crap, but I am determined to succeed and will hopefully be making much more than that some day, otherwise it's not worth it. Look, right now I can go get a job in some pharma company, or other safer and more stable environment and fall asleep at my desk during the day and work 5 minutes from my home, or I can go all out and never look back and plunge into the chaos, pressure and uncertainty of pursuing a trading job. Pursuing a trading career is not the best choice for job stability. But it seems to me that trading is a way of life and the kind of life I want to life. I am intensely focused, competitive,athletic, and detached. I climbed Mt.Everest, and thats the most important traits needed in trading or plain old any job. I will go and get a MBA our masters in a quant finance if needed to make it, but that won't make me successful trader.