Best option strategies to learn ....

Discussion in 'Options' started by tradingpoker, Jan 5, 2020.

  1. taowave

    taowave

    Ok,you passed the sniff test:thumbsup:

    Without accounting for vol/skew,I'm not sure how you deem a vertical to have edge..

    With that said,I think your approach and incorporating verticals works well for you and that could be a an edge..







    Im pretty sure you dont feel that any vertical trading for less than half of the strike width has 'edge"..

     
    #61     Jan 12, 2020
  2. anycolour

    anycolour

    Taowave, could you please explain what you mean when saying "less than half of the strike width" You mean a risk/reward ratio below 1:1? Thanks
     
    #62     Jan 12, 2020
  3. taowave

    taowave

    Sure,5 point vertical as in the 100-105..The "width" is 5 points..2.5 debit for the spread would be 1 to 1 risk reward..

     
    #63     Jan 12, 2020
  4. anycolour

    anycolour

    So what you're saying is that in a 5 point vertical of 100-105, if I could buy it for less than half of the width (If I'd pay less than $250 for the spread), that does not necessarily mean there is edge. Is that correct?

    Could a vertical spread have edge where you pay MORE than half the strike width?

    Thanks!
     
    #64     Jan 12, 2020
  5. The vol skew is what brings the favorable pricing in the first place. When the implied volatility of the OTM strikes is skewed higher than the ATM strike, you're getting more premium on the short leg of the spread thus favorable pricing:
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    You just gotta be somewhat decent at picking direction. I would even argue its a way of systematically identifying the favorable pricing due to the difference between implied and historic vol. From the "options are always perfectly priced" theory, this would technically be a contrarian trade.
     
    #65     Jan 12, 2020
  6. I would just record trade date, ticker symbol, Profit/loss including commissions, average win amount, average loss amount, and win %.
     
    #66     Jan 12, 2020
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  7. anycolour

    anycolour

    Thanks for everything @TradeTheory. Two last important question for now: Could you please tell me and/or give me an example of a couple of the best strategies for trading earnings reports (or any other kind of report, e.g., jobs and unemployment for /ES, grains stocks report for corn futures, etc) with options?

    And, best strategies for more short-term option strategies, maybe even for day trading.

    Thank you!
     
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    #67     Jan 12, 2020
  8. Stay tuned on my small account trade journal for earnings report trades. I'm not gonna go into it now but I'll be posting some butterflies on some of the more liquid names in the next few weeks when earnings season picks up. I don't trade many futures outside of index futures such as /ES /NQ /RTY but once in a while I'll trade /GC or /CL. Other than earnings I usually try to stay away from the binary event/report. Usually I'll just trade futures as a hedge in managing a delta neutral strategy. I've got a buddy who trades nothing but hog futures and he makes a killing in that market. But if you're less than $25k and want to practice day trading without having to worry about the PDT rule then futures is the way to go, especially with the micros being introduced.
     
    #68     Jan 12, 2020
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  9. Sorry for the newbie question again....

    Still learning of course....I have a paper trading account with IB, yesterday I sold to open 10 contracts on AMD Jan 31st 47 Puts. The mid price for the puts were $1,60 I put market and got filled at 1 cents. Of course that means I am losing close to $1,600 straight away. My question is how lightly could this happen with a real money account?

    https://gyazo.com/c273592fc1a1764698f857cfd1a09d8e
     
    #69     Jan 14, 2020
  10. taowave

    taowave

    Almost impossible..
    AMD is pretty dam liquid with tight markets.Even if you accidentally typed in to sell at .01,on a 1.60 option,you would probably be filled at 1.55 ish..

     
    #70     Jan 14, 2020