Berniennials United

Discussion in 'Politics' started by elderado, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. elderado

    elderado

    How do you figure? They are student loans, not necessarily middle class
     
    #11     Aug 13, 2019

  2. I dont recall anyone telling me, my brother, my cousins or now nieces during first year of college to take easy classes and skate. No "admission rep" (is that really a thing?) takes over your class schedule and pushes you to light class loads, most freshman are forced into required classes and only ones pushed to skate by are athletes.

    Freshman can drive and vote...they are not kids. I only blame the university for not sitting down a philosophy major and asking them their career goals and forcing them to evaluate their realistic future.

    But no one puts a gun to their head and pushes them into these majors. And why should a university talk them out of it, customer is plopping down $60k to major in English or American studies, that is what the school offers. Whose to say what is the best major anyway for a career. Student loans have numerous tools to adjust payments and to be honest a person graduating with a shitty degree gets the beat education figuring out how to pay it back with a real job.

    Without grad school most will struggle first 5 to 10 years anyway. Most should be required to take business classes.

    Bottom line the schools are expensive but 3rd parties make the loans, NOT the schools . We need to stop shifting blame away from the responsible student. Time to pull up the diapers and grow up and stop blaming universities and politicians etc.

    University is overpriced..but you can go and come out a stellar prospect with the right education and guidance. Hummers were overpriced and useless but idiots with no gun to their head still bought them. Figure out how to pay for it.

    Instead of bullshit on those poor unis are taking advantage of adults (yes 18 -21 year olds) focus on educating people on reality of student loans IF YOU CHOOSE TO BORROW.

    Want to go to UVA but cannot afford it unless you borrow 4x your ability to pay back . Go the fuck somewhere else. It is 2019...between online programs and state schools and community you can start somewhere cheaper and do way better. If you go to a cheaper school get As and transfer if you get assistance.

    Tired of colleges and universities getting 100% of the blame. Talk about alternatives and cheaper options and watch colleges and universities scramble to compete. As I said many schools offer distance learning

    Time for this young generation to take responsibility and stop.asking for shit and blaming others.
     
    #12     Aug 14, 2019
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  3. RRY16

    RRY16

    The young millennial barista chick who I get my tea from on occasion took out a student loan, blew off school and spent it on a new rack. only in So Cal, F### it, its over!
     
    #13     Aug 14, 2019
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  4. Another dirty little secret the universities don't want to talk about. These students had to get loans because all the scholarships were given to minorities and illegal aliens.

    But how about that football team? Who can put a price on that.
     
    #14     Aug 14, 2019
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  5. I have no idea where you, your brother, cousins, nieces and nephews went to college, but every single college in this country has an admissions department. People who work in this department are called Admissions Representatives or Admissions Counselors. It is impossible to register for or attend any post secondary school without going through this department.

    One effective way to evaluate the best fit for you is speaking with college admissions representatives. They will explain the admissions process, your academic program of interest and available student support services before you make a commitment.
    While most of us are accustomed to a classroom full of desks and a teacher at the front, many colleges are branching out in teaching modalities. Bertotto explains the importance of understanding how classes at a college will be taught. Are your classes online? Are they in a classroom of 25 students or in an auditorium of 225 students? Does the format of your class depend on the major? Think about how your learning style aligns with the college’s class setup.

    https://www.rasmussen.edu/student-e...ns-to-ask-college-admissions-representatives/

    Are you trying to tell me that during this conversation that every single perspective student knows exactly what classes they want to take? Know exactly what they want their major to be? That there is no guidance or suggestion from the Admissions Rep? Nonsense.
    There are many kids who have zero experience with this process and the only people instructing them in the process are their High School Guidance Counselors and these College Admission Reps. They are the first in their family to attend college. These are the people I'm talking about.
    Now if you're talking about some numbskull who knows what they want, and that choice is a useless selection of classes in some useless major, and expects to spend four years of attending protests and parties, then yes, fuck them. These others who are being guided through the process are a different story and while, as I stated previously, they do bear some responsibility, the intuitions they are attending are also playing a role in this mess and I will not just give them a pass, especially of they're looking to me and you the taxpayer to bail them out. Nope! We must first address why the fucking degree costs so god damn much to begin with. Then we need to address why so may kids are being directed towards college when other avenues would be more appropriate. Then we address the value of some of these classes and majors being offered and shit-can the ones that are obviously some ridiculous area of study. Then and only then can we discuss some alternative loan payments.

    BTW, I just pulled the first link of a search for college admissions. You are free to search for any college you like and that college will surely have an admissions department.
     
    #15     Aug 14, 2019
  6. smallfil

    smallfil

    These same students support discrimination against other students, Asians for instance who are heavily discriminated against. Of course, all of them, including those Asian students vote Democrat because they have been brainwashed in the communist re-education camps called colleges and universities! Worthless degrees billed at hundreds of thousands of dollars? I have said it before, if you have $100,000-$200,000 you got in a loan, put up a business with your whole family running it! You get lots of deductions, pay less taxes, do not get your kids brainwashed by extreme liberal professors to hate you, your family, the US and love Socialism and Communism? Lots of plusses including, developing their skills as a business owner!
     
    #16     Aug 14, 2019
  7. RRY16

    RRY16

    2.7GPA can’t even get you into JC, lol, you need to get out of bed and quit watching so much TV and get off the internet.
     
    #17     Aug 14, 2019

  8. She spent it on a new rack so we all benefit
     
    #18     Aug 14, 2019
  9. This is the second time you said the universities are asking the taxpayer to bail them out..

    Do you even know how any of this works? Until you do we cannot have a serious conversation on this issue. Tell me.more about the Bank of Stanford and Bank of Michigan U....

    Google student loans please, educate yourself then rethink your position that universities want taxpayers to bail then out. Dont just repeat fake news.
     
    #19     Aug 14, 2019
  10. Yes colleges have admissions departments but you said they are advising students to take easy classes and force then to be philosophy majors. You want to be a philosophy major? Fine. Why should a school talk someone out of a major they want to study.

    Are majors broken down by who takes out a loan and who doesnt.

    Did you go to college? Because your responses are of someone who is guessing what it is like or googling what it might be like rather than speaking from experience....

    Admission "rep": maybe you shouldn't major in history, we don't want students in that department "
    Lmao
     
    #20     Aug 14, 2019