Bernie Sanders and Alan Greenspan "Chat"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by piezoe, Mar 2, 2016.

  1. well I'll meet you half way. Eliminate my employer tax, lower my corp tax, and about half the EPA, OSHA, and a few thousand other regulations that cost me money and I wll glady give all that money directly to my employees.
     
    #21     Mar 3, 2016
  2. Would you like some infrastructure and fresh air with your order, and perhaps a glass of clean water?

    As for eliminating OSHA, do you think danger pay will be cheaper? At the very least, the workplace will become more exciting.
     
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    #22     Mar 3, 2016
  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    I don't think the need for a national minimum wage has anything at all to do with this. I believe a national minimum wage is essential in a large mixed economy to prevent unsound, capitalist business practices from gaining a foothold and damaging the economy.
     
    #23     Mar 3, 2016
  4. very little of the so called infrastructre is federally funded. Every year they try to remove impurities from water by EPA mandate. Now they need new microcopes just to see what it is left to remove. The whole government is on auto pilot. And when it comes time for somebody to give in, it's us against you. The business owner or the government. The government has become so powerful that we actually need to buy it because we can no longer compete against it anymore. Fresh air, clean water? no problem, we don't need them anymore. Now we have Climate Change.
     
    #24     Mar 3, 2016
  5. fhl

    fhl


    So paying an employee according to the value he brings to a business is somehow a distortion of capitalism and you have a better idea. Ok. lmao

    Earth to commie. If you drive that company out of business, then those employees have no job. And those employees still have the same fundamental worth that they had before. They're not going to be worth any more to another business than the one you just shut down. You think those unskilled workers will be worth more to target than they are to walmart? To any other business?

    If you force all these people to receive higher wages than they are worth, you automatically force up the cost of living for everybody, and then these poor souls are in exactly the same position that they were in before. They are still receiving less than you feel they "need".

    And you think that implementing all of your regulations isn't a distortion, but rather letting the market work properly is a distortion. Virtually every post of your reeks of standing logic on its head.
     
    #25     Mar 3, 2016
  6. Perhaps you should consider how plantation owners in the Old South assigned "value" to labor. Business models, and all that.
     
    #26     Mar 3, 2016
  7. you can't divorce wages from business. I think we all want USA to have the highest wages in the world. One component of a high wage is gainful employment by a profitable business. The best way to keep a business profitable is to keep wages as low as possible. The best way to get laid off is to make wages too high.
     
    #27     Mar 3, 2016
  8. *Sniff*

    I think I just stepped on some supply-side.
     
    #28     Mar 3, 2016
  9. no, like I said, I'll meet you half way. It's a little late to get things going, but a regular something everyone both the boss and the employee can plan for raise in a non disruptive min wage (if you insist on a min wage) should have been implemented long ago.
     
    #29     Mar 3, 2016
  10. fhl

    fhl

    So saith the armchair economist that has more knowledge than all the participants in the market collectively put together.
     
    #30     Mar 3, 2016