Ben just screwed himself and this market

Discussion in 'Trading' started by detective, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. LT701


    it's amazing that people bleat that quote, without even a glance at the track record

    yes, the market does follow the fed, but with a HUGE lag, sometimes years
    #11     Jan 22, 2008
  2. The sage advice leaves anyone who went long the open feeling pretty good right about now.:D

    rate cuts may not stop a raging waterfall over the long run, but it sure helped to take that advice on the open this AM.
    Just ask the shorts who took positions this morning on the expected Armageddon drop. Wait, don't bother them, they are busy doubling down for the end of day crash.
    #12     Jan 22, 2008
  3. Uncontrolled crash? The market was down 4.5% in the futures. That's a crash? Ok, if the markets went locked limit down 10-15% in disorderly markets, the Fed stepping in is understandable. But preemptive strikes to prevent the market from falling more than 5% is blatant market manipulation by the Fed.
    #13     Jan 22, 2008
  4. S2007S



    DOW is down over 2500 points since they started cutting rates.....

    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

    wait, let me guess its an election year, so by what the stock traders almanac says its going to be an up year.

    :p :p :p :p :p :p
    #14     Jan 22, 2008
  5. Being long at the beginning of a rate cut cycle is the worst time to be an investor. When the Fed stops cutting considers raising rates, that's the time to get long.
    #15     Jan 22, 2008
  6. this is everyone will buy assuming the fed will bail them out with liquidity on every sell off...........

    what ben should have done is said "i don't give a fuck about the stock market, i make my decisions based on current employment and inflation data
    #16     Jan 22, 2008
  7. LT701


    even a terrible bear should not exceed the 'wave 3' bull high on the first wave down, it should only saw off the bull wave 5

    there's a huge technical difference between holding and losing these levels on the first wave down, and i believe the fed knows that too. Notice they held their fire until EXACTLY that point?

    (I think elliot wave is of extremely limited value, because some people look for it all the time even when it's not really there, but this is one of the few big picture places where there is some validity, IMO)
    #17     Jan 22, 2008
  8. the FED has to cut b/c if the Dow falls below 10k, then all hell will break loose.

    over the counter derivatives tied to the performance of the indices would implode.
    #18     Jan 22, 2008
  9. It's just par for the course (i.e. people want to have SOMETHING to say, without really saying anything at all).

    Like cocktail chatter.
    #19     Jan 22, 2008
  10. LT701


    kinda like pundits saying 'he's the maverick' about mccain

    #20     Jan 22, 2008