Possibly because I would do a personal integrity check first , having an unwavering belief in an evil act being a good act, is simply something which does not appeal to me. The God or Father, concept or whatever you want to call the thing ,does give me a handle on what something evil would sound like. Good is obviously not something which can be recognized as the first thing this God character finds it possible to relate with. With a supposedly Almighty power at Its disposal , the only "good" thing It can think of is to get others to kill Its own Son, and use that as reason to make a now dubious promise to humanity that they can pander to the megalomaniacal wants of this God by worshipping It. That is nothing less than a description of sick perversion. If you want to be of the opinion that morally objectionable and malevolent behavior is good , then that's your problem. I'm not one convinced by the ethical trading school of thought, but that is one trade I would not make. For the cost of my integrity - a repulsive superstition. No thanks.
I believe in God. I don't believe that God is a person or object but rather an idea and principal which encompasses all that is good including love. This does not mean that God is a creation of man. The wright brothers did not create the principals of flight, they tapped into the principal. According to my definition a lot of people who claim to be atheists in fact believe in God.
The First Church of the Last Laugh? The fact is, the world began as a joke. Only as it's theistically thrashed themes are taken seriously does it become hell for believers in hellaciousness. I do not believe in the world, so not believing in hell. So my theme song is "Joy To The World". Joy would end a world begun with sadness. The world simply can't handle joy any more than it can handle the Truth. Joy is the Truth. The world perpetuates a lie, so it is depressing. The "last days" will be the "laugh days", not some apocalyptic armageddon. The world began with loud lamenting, armageddon, battle, and war. Therefore, it will end in peace. If ever there were peace on earth, there would be no more earth. It would literally pass away, for it is a battleground in which the *special* can strive to survive, comparing themselves to elves, and everything else that does not exist. How is this not a joke? Peace would completely remove the sight of the world-as-you-know-it from your deluded perception. You would see something else entirely...something joyful. Look at the logic of sacrifice carefully, and tell me its not a joke. So-called Christians are laughing their way to the blood-bank, believing a body bodes a beatific vision. Laugh as they may with mundane mirth, the last laugh will be left to Life and Spirit. Jesus
The "last laugh days?" I don't think anyone will be laughing. Non-believers will be crying, and believers will be rejoicing. As behold, the second coming of Christ will be upon us. He will take us home. Until then people will try to rationalize the following, and suffer: "Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, Mar 13:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. Mar 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. Mar 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." When you say "laughing days", I'll hope you meant happiness, and tears of joy as our time on Earth will be over, and believers will walk in the Kingdom of Heaven. I've suffered fire, and combat on Earth. However, it PALES in comparison to what the World WILL ultimately see, AND it's non believers. I will not be burned anymore. I will walk through the fire, and emerge un burned. I gave my life to God, and accepted that he sent his only begotten Son here to DIE (yes, die!) for our sins, so that those who believe can have salvation that is eternal after life on Earth. Why would anyone create people who are going to live, and die to ultimately live in some kind of vaccum? Why would God give us Children who make us smile, who create life after we are gone if we are supposed to be some kind of dust matter after death?? Why would God allow ANYONE to be happy on Earth if they were merely here to die, and live without salvation? There's some "good" crack going around, and fortunately, I refuse to smoke it, as I was taught the correct way, and will not buckle under some scientific garbage that Man (who GOD CREATED!!!!) has the nerve to think they are smarter than the written word. Did anyone think 2 planes could bring down two MASSIVE twin towers? (I've been in both, and both were mind-bendingly huge buildings!) Didn't the makers of the Titanic say it was impossible to sink it due to the "construction?" I think many here need to flush out their head gear as it's all "fouled up." (What????? Were you expecting the USMC version of that in 4 letter words?????? LOL! Sorry. I only let a few things slip now and then. I caught it today. ) Btw, those who PM'd me, thank you! I have a Sunday evening service I'm heading to, but will reply back later tonight. Last, thanks to one (no names) who told me about the ignore button. I've been a Mod at a bodybuilding board since 2003, and we need this badly! Thanks again! God bless
Truth is the first casualty of war. Begun as an attack on Truth, the world compromises the One Mind with a relentless psy-ops campaign. Salvation is ultimately a mind rebuilding exercise [ie. "Destroy this temple, and I will rebuild it in three days"]. It is entirely psychological, dealing with delusion, schizophrenic phenomena, and deceptive dementia with demon-like disdain for sanity. Asking a body-builder to minister the gospel is like asking a fox to watch the chicken coop. Note well, all of the earliest wayward from *the Way* were body builders of sorts. Paul promised a glorious body, building it up in the imagination of the impressed, desperately deluded into dying for a "good" one. In fact, any attempt at body betterment compromises what makes the body and could keep it healthy - the mind. Sickened by separation, the body falls to a disjoined mind, fragmented by fallacious facts and false pretense. And so all such efforts to build the body ultimately kill the body. The body defies the Truth of One Mind, One Spirit, One Creation, One Son. All efforts to save the body must necessarily kill the truth that it's own truth may "live". And in this way, *the Way* was *lost*, led by lustful leaders. The body is actually a psychic phenom, entirely mind-stuff, made morbid by a mad mentality which combines self-worship with self-sabatoge. It is an unnatural use of mind-power, expressing thematic intent, having no regard for truth. Of itself, the body is neutral. It is a pawn in a war waged "within" an extremely powerful mind. It follows orders, marching faithfully to the drum of dreamed-up dictates, scripted for the scrawny, ripped up by retro-reality, speared by special forces spitefully conspiring to cater to corporal punishment. Jesus
Can propoganda be rationalized? The Marines have a "no man left behind" type policy. *Our Father* also has a similar policy: No Son left behind. If there is only one Son, then none will be left unsaved from temporary insanity. Jesus
They say that in every age. --------------------------------------------------------- The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." about 1000 B.C. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=23&chapter=53&version=31&context=chapter ---------------------------------------------------------
Quote from SWhiting: We do not know the reason why the universe came into existence: and we will probably never know. Precisely. You have no clue where it comes from. The Cosmos defies explanation. But that doesn't stop science from considering that the best explanation is a multiverse - where billions or even trillions+ of simultaneous universes exist. They cannot see or detect any other universe, but that is their best explanation. All of us may exist in an unquantifiable number of states in separate universes simultaneously. Yes, that is much better an explanation than a Creator. That's no reason to 'invent' a creator. Isn't it odd that every major known civilization in history has "invented" creators? many of them independently? Even the Neanderthals had obvious religious rites, and buried their dead in anticipation of an afterlife. But again, science invents the multiverse - a much better explanation than a Creator. Conveniently, it can never be proven, so it is hard to dismiss. Why do you require a creator to explain the universe but have no problem accepting that a CONSCIOUS being does not need a creator? For all we know, a Big Bang event has occurred many times. However, we can only measure the evidence from the last occurrence. You mean "the last speculation." The Big Bang is still a theory, in spite of all the scientific confidence. They are still struggling with Dark energy and Dark Matter - two phenomena that make up 96% of the Universe (maybe) they don't understand, had no clue existed 35 years, may not exist, may never be truly understood Science is still in diapers, but dismisses a Creator, when they themselves are mostly clueless and blind.