Any time anyone makes a statement such as: "They can not prove there is no Creator. " It's all the evidence you need that they have never learned to think critically, and there is no point in debating with them. People who challenge others to prove a negative, simply are ignorant of rational, logical, critical thinking. Prove im not god. Its impossible. Therefore jem should just accept this as fact and bow down to me. Of course he wont because his thinking is clearly irrational and inconsistent. Why argue with the brainwashed? It just wastes everyone time. These threads are a waste of time. You cant de-brain-wash someone who has been religiously institutionalized their entire life and cant think for themselves. 10 simple questions for the brainwashed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDHJ4ztnldQ
anybody who can't read should not waste our time. it was the atheist who said there is no God. I point out: 1. Science has no idea what happened just after, during and before the big bang... therefore science does not pretend to have competence to tell us whether there was a creator or not. Therefore no one can state there is no creator. 2. Saying there may have been a creator is not the same as saying there are unicorns. 3. Noble winning scientists say there is evidence of design. I am not making atheists prove a negative -- I am saying they are fricken idiots for trying. Get it. If you do not see the difference you are not logical.
Look, youre clearly an idiot who doesnt know what he is talking about because you are attempting to claim that atheists (all) assert that god doesnt exist. This would be like me asserting that some really tiny faction of christians with some particularly strange belief represent all christians, and thus claim that "christians" assert "insert stupid thing here". There are 2 types of atheists. Atheists who assert there is no god, represent the smallest/tiniest fraction of all atheists. Im an atheist, and I dont assert god does not exist. I simply dont believe in god, unicorns and other fucking stupid fairytales simply because there is no evidence and that is the only rational conclusion. Get it moron? I would say 95,96,97,98,99% of atheists simply lack belief. Look up implicit atheism, and weak atheism. Strong atheists are very rare, and in fact, ive never even met one. Stupid theists never seem to know this. Also, research the difference between agnosticism and atheism because they are not mutually exclusive as your posts have implied, proving yet again, your are an ignorant brain washed idiot, of the usual kind. I have no patience for drivel from brainwashed people. You have clearly shown you are in no position to even debate this topic. You are ignorant of the definitions and lack the critical thinking skills to even debate this. I suggest some college classes in critical thinking and philosophy. Until then, dont partake in such debates, it only makes you look dumb as dirt. Im done with this crap. Someone grammar/spellcheck this post for me, ive wasted far too much of my precious time on this theist crap already
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/atheism a�the�ism �audio� (th-zm) KEY � NOUN: 1. 1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods. 2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods. 2. Godlessness; immorality. You are getting very emotional. sorry to intrude on your belief system. This conversation was started by an apparent atheist who said there is no God. I have read prominent atheists such as Carl Sagan state he or we know there is no God. when you look up the definition of atheism in the large majority of recognized dictionaries - atheism is defined as the disbelief of God. and the 2 the doctrine that there is no God. You are apparently confused as to what atheism is -- perhaps you are an agnostic. A position which is intellectually respectable.
Definition #1 gives the definition of both types of atheists but does not give a percentage breakdown of implicit/weak versus strong atheists. The only person confused about what atheism here, is the idiot who thinks that the laymans dictionary is the end all to definitions. Fuck, are you really this damn stupid???? Really??? Would you rely on websters for a proper definition of a specific disease over a medical reference??? I guess you would. Why dont you try asking the prominent experts on atheism what atheism actually is, instead of reaching for websters like a brainless dolt???? This is why I try to stay out of these debates. People are simply to uneducated and stupid regarding the technical philosophical subject of atheism. Stupid little brain washed theists have had the church stuff dumb ideas into their heads far too long to be able to grasp what atheism really. The rest of your post is typical cherry picking crap. Perhaps im an agnostic? Once again you prove to us you dont even understand the very basic meanings of atheism and agnosticism. I am both an atheist and an agnostic. Ill repeat again, they are not mutually exclusive. Your typical stupid theist thinks they are because they simpy havent studied the subject matter enough. Every post proves this. Now run along and educate yourself. Put down johnnys first little dictionary, and get a hard core philosophical reference on what atheism really is. Better yet, try reading a book on it by a leading, recognized expert on the subject so you can stop babbling about stupid out dated layman dictionary definitions.
Gees trader dragon, I only know a few atheists and they all have one thing in common. They seem to be the sort that would pop a blood vessel over a dictionary, degrees of atheism and/or various points that no on else can seem "to get it right".
Listening to people argue shit they clearly dont know a damn thing about drives me crazy. Like a bunch of rednecks sitting around a fire, drinking beer, and debating quantum mechanics, trying to sound smart. Fact is, when it comes to atheism, most theists know as much about it as the rednecks know about QM. Listening to the same old tired misconceptions drives me up a wall. Prove a negative, because webster says so, blah de blah dah. I cant listen to this kind of stupidity very long without losing it. No wonder this country is going to shit. Full of uneducated idiots who debate by webster. If you dont even know the technical non-layman definitions of a complex subject you wish to debate, you should keep your mouth shut.
Atheists assert God does not exist. An atheist cannot believe there is no God and also claim they do not assert that God does not exist. If you believe there is no God, then you believe there is no God PERIOD. Agnostics have doubts that God exists