Behind every 'Moral Crusader', is a closet full of skeletons.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Rearden Metal, Oct 4, 2006.

  1. Cutten

    Cutten

    I can point out many indirect effects of leaving school at 16, getting drunk, or having unprotected sex. That doesn't mean they are crimes or ought to be made illegal.

    Robbing a bank, on the other hand, is causing direct harm to the bank and/or its insurance company - stealing someone's property is a *direct* effect. Big difference.

    I think we can put prosecuting people for offences, then committing them yourself, down as a direct effect (voter fraud, adultery).
     
    #31     Mar 11, 2008
  2. "THEY HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS"

    anyone that believes this lie needs to get off the fluoride and aspartame IMMEDIATELY.
     
    #32     Mar 11, 2008
  3. Wow...what a decent into hyperbole hell.

    Can you cite one reference of "homo sex" being taught in an elementary school? I'd be shocked yet most appreciative if you could.


     
    #33     Mar 11, 2008
  4. So why doesn't that same rule apply to those who are using the state to undermine traditional values? You don't seem to have a problem with them. Isn't their "crusading" equally objectionable?

    ps. I have no desire to get into another endless go around with you on this, so this will be my final response to you on this thread.
     
    #34     Mar 11, 2008
  5. Apparently that is not the case with all school districts, or maybe yours just delays it for a while.

    There is nothing inherently wrong in moral crusades, whether pursued by evangelicals or liberals. The problem arises when they invoke the power of the state to compel you to do as they want. My sense of it is that liberals are far more guilty of that than conservatives or religious activists. The activism by the latter has come as a reaction to govenment action, which they see as undermining or threatening their principles. Just as it is inapproriate for the schools to advocate for one political party, they should not be taking positions on contentious social or political issues under the guise of teaching "values" or "tolerance" or "citizenship."
     
    #35     Mar 11, 2008
  6. Had to dive in here a second. One reason that perhaps the evangelicals and other sects don't invoke the power of the state is that they cannot due to their tax free status.

    I agree that public schools should teach, not preach. We have religious schools for that.


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    #36     Mar 11, 2008
  7. But the church leaders are putting their nose into politics and others peoples business all the time.
    Lets tax the churches and remove the tax exemption for donations to churches also. The churches are a major political and economical force, let em pay their fair share. It's time the freeloader churches bellied up to the bar and pay their tab. And the shit people get away with on their deductions to churches would be fraud for any real business to deduct.
     
    #37     Mar 11, 2008
  8. Speak to me respectfully if you want a response, and save all that unprovoked belligerence for your budding dominatrix career.
     
    #38     Mar 11, 2008
  9. Turok

    Turok

    Apparently you don't read well. If you notice the "more appropriate" (said admittedly with a touch of humor) comment in my post it will all make sense.

    JB
     
    #39     Mar 11, 2008
  10. Cutten

    Cutten

    Most people my age that I know have played GTA and seen internet bestiality porn, it doesn't seem to have harmed them. If you think it's harmful then how come society is not FUBAR? Crime is lower now in the US than it was in the 1970s and 1980s before violent video games and before vids of danish sluts shagging pigs could be accessed by teens.
     
    #40     Mar 12, 2008