beginner prop strategies

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by Kris, Sep 11, 2008.

  1. tradethetrade

    tradethetrade Vendor

    Choose a stock that does not have too many people in it. Something within 300k - 600k daily volume. Make sure the stock chart makes nice clean movements during the day. Watch how price reacts when a bunch of bids/offers show up on l2 or when a bigger than average size shows up on l2.

    Tips...

    Choose tight spreads for now (max 3 cents)

    Choose stocks under 50 for now...

    Choose stocks that have a nice range of at least 75c during the day between hi and lo points.

    Do research daily to find new stocks.
     
    #11     Sep 11, 2008
  2. Don't do this -

    Spend as much time as possible on ET and soak up the wealth of knowledge here

    That would death to your trading. Get some excellent training, make a solid plan based on patterns and strategies that repeat 50% of the time, trade light, and no emotions.
     
    #12     Sep 12, 2008
  3. vingbel

    vingbel

    gptrader --

    Sounds like you think most of the information on ET is not valuable.

    Other than studying the available texts (Edwards and Magee, etc.) and taking classes and seminars, what do you specifically recommend in terms of a getting excellent training? Can you recommend a mentor and other ways to train properly?
     
    #13     Sep 12, 2008
  4. pclark

    pclark

    Man, you are just asking for trouble with these types of questions around here. Good luck.

     
    #14     Sep 12, 2008
  5. yes Vingbel, I have seen too many threads from those wanting to do good get trashed by negativity that inevitably enters these. My warning to him is this site is of limited value,
     
    #15     Sep 12, 2008
  6. Darshan

    Darshan

    Stick to stocks in play, the lower volume range bound stocks will just chop you up.. oh and trend is your friend, fight the compulsion to want to pick tops and bottoms
     
    #16     Sep 12, 2008
  7. That's a losing churn & burn strategy. Level 2 trading is played out big time.

    The fact is that the prop firm wants you to generate commissions, hence having you scalp Level 2 is beneficial to them. It's very unlikely you will ever start making true profits, hence why not make the most out of it for them.

    If the firm actually wanted to create profitable traders, they would dump all the micro scalping strategies and have you play with 100 shares to catch longer term moves based on something more than a big size showing up in Level 2. Sector trading, mean reversion, daily chart break outs, news & earnings, etc.
     
    #17     Sep 12, 2008
  8. Actually, there are many nuggets here. Back when tapereading NYSE actually worked very well, there was an amazing post made by a member which contained 10x more knowledge than all of the "training" programs by the prop firms.

    All his prop firm will teach him to do is generate commissions and lose money slowly.
     
    #18     Sep 12, 2008
  9. vingbel

    vingbel

    Hydro,

    Could you elaborated when you say that you no longer believe tape reading works? Are you including PA? If so, why don't you think PA works in todays's market?

    gptrader and clark,

    Agreed. But it's hard to find other traders to interact with. Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.
     
    #19     Sep 12, 2008
  10. PA? Do you mean TA?

    Tapereading, as in tapereading the specialist, is no longer viable. Maybe on some thin stocks where order flow still sits mostly with the specialist.

    You can kinda taperead electronic markets but it's just a tool, not a full strategy. Before NYSE going Hybrid (really a year before that event) you could make money solely based on Time & Sales in most stocks. You did not even need charts or OpenBook. The controlling order flow went through the specialist, so you just needed to learn him.
     
    #20     Sep 12, 2008