Beginner in selling Bull Put Spread

Discussion in 'Options' started by Megane, Aug 20, 2017.

  1. mopiko

    mopiko

    how's ur AMZN options working out after this week's bull run?
     
    #61     Oct 29, 2017
  2. Megane

    Megane

    I guess, bullish was the way to go !:D
     
    #62     Oct 29, 2017
  3. Ironchef, since you are doing only exclusively options since 2013, how's that working out for you? Talk about new, I am only doing Options since May 2017, so I am very, very new compare to you. I asked because this is what I am doing now too and want to know how you are doing. Do you buy deep ITM option or just any option? Thank you in advance.
     
    #63     Oct 31, 2017
  4. ironchef

    ironchef

    Thank you for asking.

    I started trading options in early 2013 after watching tastytrade and for about 6 months, mechanically selling covered calls and cash secured puts. Net result: After a few thousand trades (real trades, not sim or paper), no gains (somewhat worst than buy and hold the underlying). In other words, I proved that the market in options was quite efficient and there was no free lunch.

    Since then I do both long and short, going from ITM to ATM to OTM depending on my opinion of the underlying. Whether I can make money depends on how correct is my opinion compare to my counter party. There is no win/win in trading, only win/lose.

    I used to trade DITM but not anymore. DITM is like buying the underlying on margins, you just have to see whether the premium is more/less than the margin interest and options expiration replaces the risk of margin call.

    With the exception of the first 6 months, I am happy with the way things turned out. But, I won't confuse the bull market with my trading skill. In this raging bull market a monkey can be a trading genius if he mainly goes long.:D

    Good luck to you.
     
    #64     Oct 31, 2017
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  5. ironchef

    ironchef

    Yes, good for you.:thumbsup:
     
    #65     Oct 31, 2017
  6. Ironchef, I am using tastytrade too :). I was doing the vertical at first but now I just use options as a mean to leverage to trade stocks like Tesla. I still have a lot to learn especially with emotion, greed has turned 1 of my trade from big success to big disaster. Live and learn right?

    Thank you again for your input and good luck to you as well.
     
    #66     Oct 31, 2017
  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    Welcome to the club. My TEVA call option went from up >100% to expired worthless, so it is not just you. :(

    However, I just entered for another TEVA call as my opinion has not changed. :finger:

    Regards,
     
    #67     Oct 31, 2017
  8. I will always have a short that caps my profits for exactly this reason. Market Maker thinks he duped me into selling a .01 contract (which will actually cost me after commission and exchange fee)--in reality, he purchased my greed.
     
    #68     Oct 31, 2017
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  9. ironchef

    ironchef

    You are right Mr. beer, excellent points. We options traders always struggle to balance risk/reward. I choose not to limit my potential gain in case my guess turns out to be right.

    Regards,
     
    #69     Oct 31, 2017
  10. Megane

    Megane

    Next month, I am thinking of doing my Bull Put Spread on the RUT, a tech Company (GOOGL, AMZN, IBM, etc) and on a Index or ETF or Stock of financial sector.

    Do you have any good suggestions for options trading in the financial sector ?
     
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2017
    #70     Nov 3, 2017