Beginner help: Call Options

Discussion in 'Options' started by Flagada, Jun 26, 2020.

  1. smallfil

    smallfil

    You are welcome.
     
    #21     Jun 26, 2020
  2. The rigger may conduct another promo and in this market, it might succeed. If the rigger does attempt another pump and it succeeds it might bail you out. But your description as "rolling the dice" is apt.
     
    #22     Jun 26, 2020
  3. guru

    guru

    Bear in mind that Calls are automatically self-hedged because the whole purpose of buying calls is to limit your losses to the amount you pay for those calls, for example $1k worth of calls at $0.50 may allow you to bet on 2000 shares of stock without buying those shares and risking much more.

    You’re just using calls as if they were shares, thus making decision to not be hedged. This cannot be undone.
     
    #23     Jun 26, 2020
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  4. zdreg

    zdreg

    The reason you received great replies was because you were respectful and thankful. Both qualities are sometimes in short supply on ET.
     
    #24     Jun 26, 2020
  5. Vertical call spreads are going to de-risk such a position. But also really limit your upside.
     
    #25     Jun 26, 2020
  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/06/26/why-ideanomics-stock-is-getting-absolutely-demolis.aspx

    I would exit my position if I were you.
     
    #26     Jun 26, 2020
  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    Newbie thinking. Now you are gambling and not trading, just like the GE calls I bought a while back that became worthless.
     
    #27     Jun 26, 2020

  8. No it is not Newbie thinking.

    • Due to the volatility of options maximum loss on long option trades should 100%.
    • What is down 90% can go up 1000%.
    • No reason to lock in a 90% loss.
     
    #28     Jun 26, 2020
  9. JSOP

    JSOP

    Ok your call options' losses is limited already; it's only going to be your purchase price which is $600*100*0.5= $30,000 (I dunno how you get $29,000) assuming you are going to hold it until expiration and it's going to expire worthless otherwise there is always a chance that the underlying stock will go up and you will be able to make some money. If you really feel that there will be no chance that the stock will go up, then you should sell it now at 0.30 and at least your loss will only be (0.3-0.5) X 600*100 = $-12000 otherwise you are going to lose out on price and time decay even if the underlying is gaining value.

    The only few things that you can do to potentially "limit your losses". One is to buy puts so if the underlying goes down in value, you can potentially earn some profit but this combo would only work if the underlying's price moves a lot either way, i.e. has high volatility otherwise you are still going to lose money and even more money potentially but not infinite losses though. Another is to try to short the shares when the share price is higher than the strike on your call options if you really believe that the shares will go down in value in time, then this might be worth the shot. When worse comes to worst, you can always stop out on the shares and cash out on the call option. Again, not a guarantee of success but will not result in infinite losses either.

    Not sure what kind of scenarios you have tried in the IB software that resulted in infinite losses...
     
    #29     Jun 27, 2020
  10. Flagada

    Flagada

    Since the Calls are/were trading a 0.1, I’ve been waiting for the odd spike to 0.2 and slowly reducing my position.

    that article references Hindenburg, I’m familiar with his practices. He is in numerous lawsuits for fraud and defamation (doesn’t mean he’s wrong) but it’s a tactic he has used successfully to short positions.
     
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    #30     Jun 27, 2020