Bears throwing in the towel everywere . Fighting the Fed did them in

Discussion in 'Trading' started by hafez50, Jun 16, 2020.

  1. trading in this shit show of a market is tough. Tomorrow we could print 1 trillion or 10 trillion... does it even matter? All I believe is the more $ that is printed the more shit is gonna get expensive.

    I am reluctant to go all in or short big. Until another unknown unknown appears I'm with Bone on the range defined by the Fed floor and the recession top. For me it is 2800-3300 but all I'm doing is selling premium, controlling delta and picking a few winners and losers.

    Most importantly I am trying to understand this new normal we have. This era seems so much different than dot com or 2009.
     
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    #31     Jun 17, 2020
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  2. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    You keep saying bs that I supposedly think yet my understanding of the markets is far more grounded then you. For example, look what I posted March 21 shortly before the recovery started :

    Now also that I had posted a long term bottom on two Canadian banks that essentially has held since. TD I called at $50 Cdn. and that pretty much was the bottom. BMO I called at $60 Cdn and it did drop to $56 Cdn for a day before rocketing up in short order.

    What you aren't understanding at all is I have an extremely realistic take on markets up or down. The speed of a recovery matters very little in this picture. I'm a long term guy who looks for value and does the research.
     
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    #32     Jun 17, 2020
  3. schizo

    schizo

    Think I've had enough with your hindsight drama for now because I literally want to throw up. :vomit:

    Anyway, I'll be sure to quote you in 6 months from now. Let's see where we'll be trading then.
     
    #33     Jun 17, 2020
  4. "Remember, the market is always right. It is the analysis or set-up that is wrong."

    - Peter Borish (from Foreword for "Mastering the Trade").
     
    #34     Jun 19, 2020
  5. S2007S

    S2007S

    Yep straight to new highs!!!!!

    Thank you powell and friends for the trillions

    Charts suggest new highs ‘could be on the table’ for the S&P 500, Jim Cramer says
    PUBLISHED THU, JUN 18 20207:47 PM EDT



    The CNBC host on Thursday broke down chart analysis from Carley Garner, a market strategist and author of “Higher Probability Commodity Trading, who mapped out a case for the S&P 500 to break through its record high to 3,400 as the country recovers from the coronavirus downturn.

    Charts suggest new highs ‘could be on the table’ for the S&P 500, Jim Cramer says
    PUBLISHED THU, JUN 18 20207:47 PM EDT


    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/18/jim-cramer-charts-suggest-new-highs-are-in-store-for-the-sp-50.html
     
    #35     Jun 19, 2020
  6. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    Just buy already
     
    #36     Jun 19, 2020
  7. maxinger

    maxinger

    the title is wrong.


    Bears throwing in the towel everywhere . Fighting the Fed did them in

    ---->

    Traders everywhere profited from market movement .
    Fed speech helped move the market


     
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    #37     Jun 19, 2020
  8. bone

    bone

    1. Major Stock Indices reflect the market capitalization of the Index Member Companies - and not necessarily the economic health of the Country per se. Those two historically inclusive factors are becoming a bit more exclusive as the World becomes more globalized. It’s been said many times and there is an element of truth to it.

    2. It’s not just the Fed.

    Look at the investments that Sovereign Wealth Funds have been making and continue to make in US Companies - especially US Tech. Norway in particular is ridiculously biased into US Tech. Monster bets.

    UAE, Saudi Arabia are heavy into US equities. They see lows and retail panic selling as accumulation opportunities and they are playing the long game.

    They look at history and they look at the alternatives.
     
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    #38     Jun 19, 2020
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  9. S2007S

    S2007S

    #39     Jun 19, 2020
  10. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    #40     Jun 19, 2020