Bear Blowup Could Reignite Bull Market

Discussion in 'Trading' started by AAAintheBeltway, Jun 24, 2007.

  1. You can't win against me, ever.

    And you know why? I've never been happier.

    But please go on.
     
    #21     Jun 25, 2007
  2. Win? What is there to win against a guy waiting tables? Tips must be good.
     
    #22     Jun 25, 2007
  3. BSC opened @ 143.07 and is now trading @ 141. It has traded today under 140.

    But please don't tell tough guy he was wrong, unless you're prepared to meet and fight !!
     
    #23     Jun 25, 2007
  4. Tough guy? You're working for tips and running drag on weekends.
     
    #24     Jun 25, 2007
  5. Wow, you have serious issues. I bet i'm not the first person to tell you that.

    Here's my 3 step program to help you lose the rage and become a happy person in life :

    1) quit the drugs

    2) love somebody and be true to them

    3) lose the childish insults. Instead, try to be constructive.

    Good luck, you'll obviously need it.
     
    #25     Jun 25, 2007
  6. Why don't you entertain us with a pic of your cottage in Quogue? Tips must be good, or are you turning tricks on the side?
     
    #26     Jun 25, 2007
  7. Because you'll always lie? :D
     
    #27     Jun 25, 2007
  8. I am certain he kicks-ass at food service.
     
    #28     Jun 25, 2007
  9. Fed is not going bail anyone out this time.



    John
     
    #29     Jun 25, 2007
  10. man

    man

    bear is big. and leaning a little out of the window to
    rescue two of his assets. no big deal so far. the question
    is if this is enough to start a stampede. in recent years
    very much money was in the CDO market, in fact this
    business was the main driver for the record results in
    some of the major investment banks. who sold tons of
    such structures to institutional investors all over the
    globe. and credit spreads have shrunk to very tight
    levels. now the question is if the US housing market is
    enough of a trigger to make parts of that credit derivatives
    building fall apart.

    in may 2005 the almost bankruptcy of general motors
    ignited a big correction in the credit market, or more
    precisely in the standardized credit market and here
    especially in the equity pieces, bringing implied correlations
    to levels below 10, while having traded before above
    20. back then rumor had it that one big hedge fund
    would have to liquidate positions at these levels, putting
    further stress on the pricing with a domino effect being
    possible. it did not happen then. i think one of the
    reasons was that the intransparent market and the
    fact that they only reported monthly figures to
    investors provided some time and the market took
    some breath again. i think it was quite near a crisis
    then, but it just cost few people their jobs at some
    correlation desk.

    the difference to stock or bond crisis IMHO is that the
    effect does not necessarily unfold immediately. the
    whole credit market is still so much driven by marked
    to model, that it might still take some weeks to make
    clear whether crisis is unfolding or not.

    anxiety has increased. many desks are nervous. and
    we are diving into low liquidity season. which is not
    helpful either in this case.

    i would not buy the knife now.
     
    #30     Jun 25, 2007