Bastard Testing

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by Lightningsmurf, Nov 23, 2002.

  1. Funster: I didn't know that about lots under 100 shares. Maybe I'll just trade 50 share lots across 100 different stocks!!! Man, would that piss off a lot of people! Commission would become a factor, but it'd be better than getting killed on slippage.

    BobCathy: Unfortunately this system doesn't perform especially well on "super thick" trading vehicles like the ETF's. maybe if I tweaked the stops a bit I could improve the results on thick stocks/ ETF's/ futures.

    Lobster: Great idea, except the stops are minimal as it is.

    Sempai: Limit orders are the only way I'm going to see a marked improvement, I think. I'll have to use market orders to exit, but I could probably work the entries to be limit orders. One problem I have is that I'm not sure how to automate (TS6) price improvement and routing instructions. If I go with straight "price gets hit - send order, I'll lose out on a lot of fills. From Kohai.

    Dustin - Again, NX would be a great idea, but I'm not sure how to set TS6 to perform that function.

    Thanks again. I'll try to keep you posted if I find any modifications that reduce slippage / enhance profitability.
     
    #11     Nov 28, 2002
  2. I know it was a shortened session yesterday and most institutional buyers were absent, but did the specialists take the day off, too?

    Check out these "Timely" market order fills I got:

    Short 100 PQE @ market. Filed: 10:02.57 filled at: 10:13.55 !!!!!!

    Short 300 VVI @ market. Filed 10:02.26 partial fill (200 shares) at 10:25.37 - It took 23 minutes to partially fill a market order????

    Short 300 VNO @ market. Filed 10:05.31 - filled at 10:13.53

    There are other examples also, but none come close to the V V I fill. I mean, what the hell???
     
    #12     Nov 29, 2002
  3. jaredand

    jaredand

    Testing naz stocks for 10 share lots work pretty well. I had a system that did that in the beginning. Only way to trade live and risk pennies a day.
     
    #13     Nov 30, 2002
  4. Funster

    Funster

    And the great thing (for the specialist of course!) is that he gets to charge you (or your broker) for having an order on his books for longer than 5 minutes. Called a "billable" order this is 3 times what he normally charges for a fill in under 5 minutes!

    Did you get a "thank you" message when you got the fills back for this nice little Thanksgiving present you gave the specialist ? :D
     
    #14     Nov 30, 2002
  5. Yesterday I filed 10 market orders and 4 of them ended up as "billable." I hope I'm not the one paying for it (aside from the lost profit opportunity!). Anyone know if TS pays the bills?
     
    #15     Nov 30, 2002
  6. To avoid a billable order us a broker that has their own dot system.
     
    #16     Nov 30, 2002