Baruch's Forex System Journal

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  1. #681     Mar 31, 2004
  2. DrBungle

    DrBungle

    Hello again

    Scientist, Jayford and others...

    I am always very wary of the risk associated with trading futures. By "risk" I am now referring to a event when the market will move so quickly that you can not get out even if you have proper tight stops in place. In index futures it is simple to calculate how much of the underlying you are controlling per contract and estimate what is the worst case scenario. But how about currency futures (6e, 6b etc)? What is the worst that one can reasonably expect? What is a reasonable amount per contract that one should have in the account?

    In index products some kind of minimums I would consider (I am talking intraday here) would be:

    ES $10.000 per contract
    Dax EUR20.000 per contract

    What would be similar "reasonable minimums" for 6e, 6j etc? (On side note, what do you think about these minimums for ES and DAX?)

    The margin for these is actually LOWER than for ES for example, but I would be very scared to trade one 6E contract per $10.000, because of the volatility.

    Again I am referring to a "catastrophe event" where stops do not matter not to normal taking of losses.

    Any comments very much appreciated.

    Bungle
     
    #682     Apr 1, 2004
  3. Ditch

    Ditch

    So you want a lot of cash, to just just sit in your account in case of a catastrophe. What kind of logic is behind that?:confused:
     
    #683     Apr 1, 2004
  4. DrBungle

    DrBungle


    First, I did not necessarely mean that the sums I mentioned has to sit in the brokers account but more of money that I can risk and that I have "allocated" to be risked in the markets. For example if I had $100.000 trading account I might have $35.000 at one brokers account, another $35.000 at another brokers account (good to have two brokers) and $30.000 for example at a normal bank account.

    Secondly, if your margin is used in such a event your broker will liquidate your positions, and the changes are that they will be liquidated at about the worst possible price. Its better to be able to decide where to liquidate. This is a reason to have sufficient amount at the broker account.

    The logic in being carefull is simple, its nasty to loose your trading account but its even nastier to end up owning your broker a ton on top of that!

    Bungle
     
    #684     Apr 1, 2004
  5. Scientist

    Just wondering. I havent seen you mention the dax lately. Are you still trading it? Is it similiar to the EUR as far as liquidity and volatility?
     
    #685     Apr 1, 2004
  6. Had some nice days in Rome.
    Did get back today to catch the sell signal. So far I am ahead with 210 pips.
     
    #686     Apr 2, 2004
  7. I am flat now - because it's soon weekend.

    Did some thinking in Rome about my strategy. I will now try to let the profit get a free ride - like today. I don't care about my wins ratio - only the pips counts now.
     
    #687     Apr 2, 2004

  8. Just curious as to how much size u trade per a position? Are u trading more than 1 lot?
     
    #688     Apr 2, 2004
  9. Hi Trend Fader,

    I (and my broker) don't trade in lots.
     
    #689     Apr 2, 2004
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