Bart Stupak... Lone Dem Who Could Kill Obama's HC Bill

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Scataphagos, Mar 6, 2010.

  1. How did that Bart Stupak thing work out for you guys ? :D :D

    Obama 2012 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D


    Pelosi 2016 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D
     
    #11     Mar 21, 2010
  2. Stupak sells out for an executive order that isn't worth the paper it's written on. Now he can blame it on the courts when they allow the bill to pay for abortions. Another political slug that hopes the public stays ignorant of the facts.
     
    #12     Mar 21, 2010
  3. I would venture to guess that you will know in November..........
     
    #13     Mar 21, 2010
  4. Don't bet on it.

    At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994.

    Only, the hardliners overlooked a few key facts: Obama was elected with 53% of the vote, not Clinton’s 42%. The liberal block within the Democratic congressional caucus is bigger and stronger than it was in 1993-94. And of course the Democrats also remember their history, and also remember the consequences of their 1994 failure.

    This time, when we went for all the marbles, we ended with none.

    When Rush Limbaugh said that he wanted President Obama to fail, he was intelligently explaining his own interests. What he omitted to say – but what is equally true – is that he also wants Republicans to fail. If Republicans succeed – if they govern successfully in office and negotiate attractive compromises out of office – Rush’s listeners get less angry. And if they are less angry, they listen to the radio less, and hear fewer ads for Sleepnumber beds.

    So today’s defeat for free-market economics and Republican values is a huge win for the conservative entertainment industry. Their listeners and viewers will now be even more enraged, even more frustrated, even more disappointed in everybody except the responsibility-free talkers on television and radio. For them, it’s mission accomplished. For the cause they purport to represent, it’s Waterloo all right: ours. - David Frum
     
    #14     Mar 21, 2010
  5. I am not a betting man, however, how would you explain the swing in margins with the conservative pick-ups in Va., N.J., and Mass. ?

    You could be correct. Individualists and "real" conservatives might be a relic of the past. This nation may have went to far onto the government teet to ever leave.
     
    #15     Mar 21, 2010
  6. #16     Mar 22, 2010
  7. Likely true, unfortunately. :mad: :mad:
     
    #17     Mar 22, 2010