Baron - Is Nazism a fun joke for you and ET?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bruto Blukowski, Apr 2, 2007.

  1. man

    man

    simply wrong.
     
    #81     Apr 5, 2007
  2. You missed the point entirely but it's perhaps because you don't understand how it works. Nevermind.
     
    #82     Apr 5, 2007
  3. man

    man

    very right. he posted ONE.
     
    #83     Apr 5, 2007
  4. Sirtatocar

    Sirtatocar Guest

    Those who state the facts of Jewish power are called believers in “The Jewish Conspiracy,” as if to conjure the ridiculous image of Jews in caftans and yarmulkes, peering from behind their earlocks at a candle-lit globe as they plot world domination. But it is not the fanciful Learned Elders of Zion we have to fear. It is those who wield Jewish power today, ever more brazenly. There is no conspiracy, at least not in the usual sense of the term. There is not even much secrecy about it. Jewish power is ubiquitous. Every politician is so aware of their power that he knows he cannot dare mention it! Jewish organizations, Jewish media, and Jewish political agents ruthlessly advance their agenda remorselessly and without introspection. Just as they single-mindedly once orchestrated the Russian Revolution, they now coordinate their world power. No Jewish leader needs to direct his mininons to seek political control over Gentile nations; they do it as naturally as the blue jay appropriates another bird’s nest. Jewish media bosses and government bureaucrats don’t have to be told to destroy Gentile pride, heritage, honor, loyalty,tradition, while simultaneously defending their own. There is no necessity of a master plan to corrupt Gentile sexual mores, family structure and religious beliefs. Freud and his intellectual descendants and
    media purveyors have certainly needed no plan, they just do what comes as natural to them.
     
    #84     Apr 5, 2007
  5. jem

    jem


    This statement can not be supported. If you were to revisit the time with an open mind. You might recall people saying - hey where is Hollywood on this issue.

    We would have thought many celebrities would have come out in favor of an attempt to "stablize" the middle east. But what we got was just about total silence. Very few people in Hollywood and very few liberal jewish types said anything at all.

    The fair assumption was that they supported the effort but they did not wish to support Bush. We also had many liberal politicians supporting the war. You absolutely can not say Jews were against the war. At least not in any public manner. Besides we did have Netanyahu and other high profile types from Isreal pushing the war in the media.

    Not that I blame Jews - I was for the war then as well. Revisionist history sucks when it is incorrect.
     
    #85     Apr 5, 2007
  6. "American Jews were far less enthusiastic about going to war in 2003 than were other Americans (Only 50-some percent supported the war as opposed to 75% of the general public). "
    http://www.juancole.com/2007/02/american-jews-blacks-fiercest-opponents.html

    And that's coming from Juan Cole in case you missed it, not exactly a jew-lover.
     
    #86     Apr 5, 2007
  7. In other words you refuse to even discuss it. That's ok...Its very sensitive area...Im not holding them accountable for the Nazi's actions....Im not even holding them accountable for their own actions...Im just asking a very basic question about why they were so passive and why they did not fight for their sons and daughters more....However, i have been fortunate enough to live in the US and have no idea what they were going through.....but i don't think its wrong to question do you?
     
    #87     Apr 5, 2007
  8. Sirtatocar

    Sirtatocar Guest

    According to the "Clean Break" paper, a nuclear Iraq was a threat to Israel and Saddam Hussein’s financial and vocal support for the Palestinian "intifada" uprising and the firing of Scud missiles into Israel during the 1991 Gulf War were serious concerns. A U.S.-led war against Iraq was an ideal way to dispel those fears.
     
    #88     Apr 5, 2007
  9. man

    man

    first of all this is a very different level of discussion than Publisher
    had put on the table. and i appreciate it. i do not share your
    opinion, but i do not see you as a nazi.

    nevertheless i see difficulties in your line of argument. the main
    problem is always speaking about a people as a whole entity.
    you would never refer to the italians as a whole, not even in
    chicago of the thirties. it is the mafia, or the italian mafia, but
    you would not condemn them as a people. same with others.
    and when it happens, like "the" chinese are putting pressure
    on taiwan", you would certainly mean "the chinese government",
    certain "chinese politicians", but not chinese people as a whole.
    but not so with the jews. whenever a jewish man owns a
    broadcasting station, it is "the jews", whenever ... you know
    what i mean. now that might be somehow justified, if these
    media as such became jewish. like promoting judaism, making
    news in hebrew, promoting them as a whole. which they by and
    large don't.

    and now comes my main point. at the end of the last paragraph
    you might have thought: "but their defending of what israel
    does, and the promotion of the holocaust ... what about that?"
    here comes the problem. over centuries the jewish population
    was literate, while most others were not. they already had a lot
    of culture when the rest of europe was sleeping in medieval
    madness. consequently they had developed science, arts and
    many other things. these things have changed. today the western
    education system allows people from many races and social
    offspring to learn and develop their abilities. and so they are very
    good in many things like arts and physics, just to mention two
    areas. and they sympathise with the jews in these fields as much
    as they sympathise with all others doing these things. but in the
    eyes of the Publishers of this planet this sympathy appears to be
    a big conspiracy, lead by the jews. which is IMHO simply not true.
    the scientific and arts community has always been more tolerant
    more sensible, if you will more "social" then the republicans.
    irrespectable of what specific race a certain individual has. things,
    i would call it intelligence and creativity, simply meet. i guess
    apple is not a jewish company, but i would think that most mac
    users believe the holocaust is fact and shit.
     
    #89     Apr 5, 2007
  10. man

    man

    i guess they were paralyzed that it could truly happen within
    industrialised germany, within a western democracy. and when
    they realised it was too late or already over. don't forget it was
    not that long, little over a decade.

    i think the determination of the jews defending israel against
    the arabs in the post WWII conflicts results directly from them
    feeling guilty for having fought too little against the Nazis.
     
    #90     Apr 5, 2007