Balance The Budget By Repealing ObamaCare

Discussion in 'Politics' started by pspr, Mar 10, 2013.

  1. pspr

    pspr


    With bad results:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/charles...ous-myth-about-the-bill-clinton-tax-increase/
    But he's not the president now.

    Bush isn't the president now and war spending ends. But national defense is the NUMBER ONE obligation of the federal government. ObamaCare spending will grow by trillions and grow way beyond projections. They always do. And it will go on forever - or until we change governments.

    So, you want to make everyone work that gets food stamps and welfare? Or how do you keep the 1 in 6 or more getting welfare off the rolls?
    Your points don't jive with what you are saying here. You can't be a fiscal conservative and support current entitlement spending, welfare, snap, illegal citizenship, obamacare, etc., etc.
     
    #71     Mar 11, 2013


  2. 1.Clinton tax increases helped turn Reagan/Bush 1's deficit into a surplus


    2.The Iraq war was not needed,Afghanistan did not need to be an invade,occupy and nation build war.The wars are ending thanks to Obama,both McCain and Romney said they would not have ended them.The wars was only 100 billion a year,Bush increased defense spending 420 billion a year.Obama is ending the wars and cutting defense spending


    national defense is the NUMBER ONE obligation of the federal government,but we do not need to spend 700 + billion a year on national defense.Russia spends 65 billion a year on defense,China spends 120 billion a year on defense,Why do we need to spend 700 billion + ?


    3.Access for healthcare was needed and Obama used Mitt Romneys,Newt Gingrichs and the heritage foundation plan to do so


    4.Yes,I want to make everyone work that gets food stamps


    5.I am a fiscal conservative.I voted for the party whos president increased spending 700 billion a year,you voted for the party whos last president increased spending 1.2 trillion a year

    I voted for the party whose last 2 presidents left a deficit smaller then they received it and will leave the deficit smaller then he received it,you voted for the party whose last 3 presidents left the deficit higher then they received it including the last one who turned a budget surplus into a trillion dollar deficit


    6.Your points don't jive with what you are saying here. You can't be a fiscal conservative and support more defense spending,more tax cuts,more wars,a party that turns budget surpluses into trillion dollar deficits and increase spending 1.2 trillion dollars a year
     
    #72     Mar 11, 2013
  3. #73     Mar 11, 2013
  4. Bush left a trillion dollar deficit,Obama increased it to 1.4 trillion and now it is at 900 billion

    Bush took a 128 billion dollar surplus and turned it into a trillion dollar deficit
     
    #74     Mar 11, 2013
  5. pspr

    pspr

    No, it was the dot com bubble that gave Clinton his surplus. It also gave him the Clinton recession
    The Iraq war was a continuation of the 1st Iraq war and even the Democraps believed the intelligence that Saddam had WND's. If Saddam was still there we would probably be sorry today that we didn't act.
    The democrats supported both wars and that's why we needed to spend that money. So, you favor not acting after 9/11? It figures. We would have have many more had we not acted.

    You have already forgotten what happened to us in Iraq when Carter cut defense to the bone. We couldn't even land a small force in the desert without screwing up. It took Reagan and and the serious military rebuilding to get the hostages released. No action was even needed after Reagan was elected. They knew we meant business. Under Obama, they know we are weak kneed.
    Hardly. There are better ways to go about this rather than a multi trillion dollar lie. Remember Obama saying he won't enact ObamaCare if it added one dime to the deficit! That was a big bold face lie to the American people. The people don't want ObamaCare and the opposition is growing.
    Good. Write to your leader and tell him how you feel
    That's a copout and a lie. I've shown you the charts of spending. Obama is the biggest spender ever and he says we don't have a spending problem as he increased the debt 50% in his first four years alone.
    Clinton/Gingrich. The rest is all make believe. Usually the democraps come in and screw everything up and Republicans come in and have to fix it. If Clinton had acted properly after the first World Trade bombing we wouldn't have had to go to war in Afghanistan. Democraps always screw things up just royally.
    LOL You must be looking in the mirror and talking to yourself.

    Let me end with some words of wisdom for you. You can't make Obama look good by talking about past presidents. Obama needs to be able to stand on his own two feet and that is how history will judge him. It's not going to be a pretty picture.

    OBAMA IS THE WORST PRESIDENT THE UNTIED STATES HAS EVER SEEN. That's the facts.
     
    #75     Mar 11, 2013


  6. 1.Clinton tax increases made tax revenue from the dot com era higher.


    2.Obama did not support the Iraq war,If Gore was President there would not have been the Iraq war.Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 and they never attacked The US.If Saddam was still there we wouldnt have the Iran problem we currently have because he would have never allowed Iran to build nukes.



    I supported action after 9-11,not the invade,occupy and nation build action that Bush took


    Terrorist know Obama means business...



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    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/the-terrorist-notches-on-obamas-belt/


    Sep 30, 2011 8:08am



    The Terrorist Notches on Obama’s Belt



    The list of senior terrorists killed during the Obama presidency is fairly extensive.

    There’s Osama bin Laden, of course, killed in May.

    Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) leader Anwar al-Awlaki as of today.

    Earlier this month officials confirmed that al Qaeda’s chief of Pakistan operations, Abu Hafs al-Shahri, was killed in Waziristan, Pakistan.

    In August, ‘Atiyah ‘Abd al-Rahman, the deputy leader of al Qaeda was killed.

    In June, one of the group’s most dangerous commanders, Ilyas Kashmiri, was killed in Pakistan. In Yemen that same month, AQAP senior operatives Ammar al-Wa’ili, Abu Ali al-Harithi, and Ali Saleh Farhan were killed. In Somalia, Al-Qa’ida in East Africa (AQEA) senior leader Harun Fazul was killed.

    Administration officials also herald the recent U.S./Pakistani joint arrest of Younis al-Mauritani in Quetta.

    Going back to August 2009, Tehrik e-Taliban Pakistan leader Baitullah Mahsud was killed in Pakistan.

    In September of that month, Jemayah Islamiya operational planner Noordin Muhammad Top was killed in Indonesia, and AQEA planner Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan was killed in Somalia.

    Then in December 2009 in Pakistan, al Qaeda operational commanders Saleh al-Somali and ‘Abdallah Sa’id were killed.

    In February 2010, in Pakistan, Taliban deputy and military commander Abdul Ghani Beradar was captured; Haqqani network commander Muhammad Haqqani was killed; and Lashkar-e Jhangvi leader Qari Zafar was killed.

    In March 2010, al Qaeda operative Hussein al-Yemeni was killed in Pakistan, while senior Jemayah Islamiya operative Dulmatin - accused of being the mastermind behind the 2002 Bali bombings – was killed during a raid in Indonesia.

    In April 2010, al Qaeda in Iraq leaders Abu Ayyub al-Masri and Abu Omar al-Baghdadi were killed.

    In May, al Qaeda’s number three commander, Sheik Saeed al-Masri was killed.

    In June 2010 in Pakistan, al Qaeda commander Hamza al-Jawfi was killed.

    Remember when Rudy Giuliani warned that electing Barack Obama would mean that the U.S. played defense, not offense, against the terrorists?

    If this is defense, what does offense look like?

    -Jake Tapper









    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21156.html


    Obama signed off on taking out pirates




    President Barack Obama issued a standing order to use force against pirates holding an American captain hostage — including giving a Navy commander the authority to act if he believed the captain’s life was in danger, two senior defense officials said Sunday night.

    Navy snipers aboard the USS Bainbridge on Sunday shot and killed three of the pirates after the Bainbridge’s commander gave the order, when a pirate was spotted aboard the lifeboat pointing an AK-47 rifle at Capt. Richard Phillips, one defense official said.











    3.Republicans didnt seem to think there was a better healthcare plan since Obamacare is their plan.If there was something better then Reagan,bush or bush should have did it




    4.Usually the republican come in and screw everything up and democrats come in and have to fix it. Clinton had to fix Reagan and Bushs mess,Obama has to fix bush 2's mess which is probably 3rd behind the mess Lincoln and FDR had to fix



    Obama will easily go down as a top 10 President,Bush will go down as one of the bottom 5.Here is a preview...




    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20009531-503544.html


    Scholars Rank Obama the 15th Best President




    A group of presidential scholars has ranked President Obama as the 15th best U.S. president of all time, a new survey shows, while his predecessor, President George W. Bush, is relegated to the bottom five.

    Mr. Obama also has an advantage in the rankings over President Ronald Reagan, who came in 18th, but President Bill Clinton beats them both in 13th place.

    The Siena College Research Institute's Survey of U.S. Presidents, which has been conducted five times since 1982, asked 238 presidential scholars to rank the 43 U.S. presidents on a number of characteristics.

    The presidents were given rankings for six personal attributes (background, imagination, integrity, intelligence, luck and willingness to take risks), five forms of ability (compromising, executive, leadership, communication and overall), and eight areas of accomplishment (economic, other domestic affairs, working with Congress, party leadership, Supreme Court appointments, executive branch appointments, avoiding mistakes and foreign policy).

    President Franklin D. Roosevelt was ranked the best president ever, followed by Theodore Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

    While he has only been in office a year and a half, Mr. Obama was rated highly in areas such as imagination, communication and intelligence.

    By comparison, Mr. Bush was ranked 23rd when the survey was conducted in 2002, after his first year in office. This year, Mr. Bush was ranked 39th after receiving poor ratings in communication, foreign policy, intelligence, the economy and his ability to compromise. Mr. Bush's best ranking came in the category of "luck," for which he was rated the 18th best president.

    The four presidents who were ranked more poorly than Mr. Bush were Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin Pierce.

    © 2010 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.
     
    #76     Mar 11, 2013
  7. Mercor

    Mercor

    13 pages of posts and not one post from you defending the necessity of Obama's spending.

    After Nancy took over in 2006 Bush spent to much. And it has continued more so under Obama.

    If you are a fiscal conservative then you should be complaining that both Bush and Obama are spending to much. But you are not a fiscal conservative, you are a troll.
     
    #77     Mar 11, 2013
  8. Bush spending started with bills he passed before Nancy took over.The unpaid for wars,the unpaid for tax cuts,the unpaid for DHS,the unpaid for medicare expansion etc all happened before Nancy took over.Bush had already increased spending by nearly 800 billion a year before Nancy took over
     
    #78     Mar 11, 2013
  9. pspr

    pspr

    LOL I'm not going to reply to your run-on post a ways back. It is so full of distortions, I wouldn't know where to start. :D

    Let's just say Obama is the biggest spender of all time in the World and he doesn't even recognize he has a spending problem.

    The fact that you support him in spite of this and in spite of the fact that neither he nor the democraps will lift a finger to reform entitlements before they bankrupt us says volumes about the integrety of your claims of being 'fiscally responsible.' Obama and the dems are the LEAST fiscally responsible group we've had in Washington since before I was born. And here is where they are taking us.

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    #79     Mar 11, 2013
  10. Again pspr,presidents usually spend more then their predecessor. Since The US spends the most the current US president is usually the biggest spender.Reagan was the biggest spender when he was president,bush 1 was the biggest spender when he was president,Bush 2 was the biggest spender when he was president.See a pattern ?
     
    #80     Mar 11, 2013