Back to the Basics

Discussion in 'Educational Resources' started by Brandonf, May 18, 2003.

  1. Brandonf

    Brandonf Sponsor

    Most traders beleive they get paid to come in and push the buy and sell buttons all day long. It makes sense, after all, if you do not place a trade it is impossible to extract a profit from the market. While that is certainly true it is also true that the more active you become in a given tirmeframe the less likely you are to make any substantial amount of money. The reason is simple, there just are not that many great trades. Great trades are the ones that will pay your bills. Professionals wait for great trades, amatures run around like crack addicts looking for anything that moves.


    Brandon
     
    #111     Jun 15, 2003
  2. Brandonf

    Brandonf Sponsor

    Discerning Good Setups From Poor Ones
    Mini-Lesson

    06/20/03 09:01:01 Toni- this is a great example though to help you
    learn when to discern a good setup from a poor one though
    06/20/03 09:01:59 Toni- the fewer inhibitors.. the higher % correct you
    will have
    06/20/03 09:03:15 Toni- so you can cut down and add to make the
    avalanche or phoenix etc different rates of success.. you may be
    comfortable with 60-70% accurate if over time the additional number of
    trade signals you get makes more
    06/20/03 09:03:40 Toni- or you might want to customize it down to a
    setups that works 90% of the time or more and take a lot fewer trades
    06/20/03 09:04:06 Toni- and yes.. there are setups that have 90% or
    better odds off success but you don't get them often
    06/20/03 09:04:52 Toni- for a higher % avalanche
    06/20/03 09:04:57 Toni- here are things to look for:
    06/20/03 09:05:11 Toni- a pullback that is sharper than the last
    section of the prior rally
    06/20/03 09:05:19 Toni- a pull directly into the 20 sma
    06/20/03 09:05:37 Toni- a narrow base along the moving average followed
    by a trigger as the prior bar's lows break
    06/20/03 09:05:50 Toni- no moving averages meaning the 20 or 200
    06/20/03 09:05:51 Toni- intraday
    06/20/03 09:06:02 Toni- on any of the time frames the setup occurs on
    06/20/03 09:06:10 Toni- or on the higher time frames
    06/20/03 09:06:24 Toni- ie 5 min avalanche with a 15 min 20 sma under
    it adds a lot of risk
    06/20/03 09:06:33 Toni- if it's not there.. it leaves it open to move
    06/20/03 09:06:52 Toni- if your setups also doesn't have a significant
    price support right under it that also helps
    06/20/03 09:07:24 Toni- not as significant as the moving averages
    thoguh
    06/20/03 09:07:45 Toni- if the volume is dropping off as it bases along
    the moving average for the avalanche
    06/20/03 09:07:50 Toni- that makes it a better setup
    06/20/03 09:07:55 Toni- it shows indecision
    06/20/03 09:08:05 Toni- and a trigger for the avalanche will bring in
    more panic
    06/20/03 09:08:31 Toni- if the rally into highs before the avalanche
    pattern starts to form is coming into strong price or mvoing average
    resistance etc
    06/20/03 09:08:34 Toni- that also makes it better
    06/20/03 09:08:43 Toni- if the trend is exhausted that is better still
    06/20/03 09:08:59 Toni- an exhausted trend is often one that has had
    three waves of buying or selling
    06/20/03 09:09:13 Toni- so the more of these you combine, the better
    your setup will be
    06/20/03 09:10:55 Toni- it's simply putting these things together and
    enough of them together on each setup that will often make the difference
    between someone saying.. well this setup just stinks.. i can't ever make
    money on it! and someone else who makes the majority of the money on the
    same setup but has it more refined
    06/20/03 09:11:22 Toni- of course.. letting your profits run and being
    able to identify your targets well
    06/20/03 09:11:33 Toni- will also be a huge factor
    06/20/03 09:12:25 Toni- =) for members, i have several clases in the
    members section that just focus on lowering risk and setting targets
    06/20/03 09:12:39 Toni- they become much easier with practice


    06/20/03 09:18:49 Toni- one thing on breakdowns
    06/20/03 09:19:05 Toni- the earlier you can catch one on a new trend
    intraday the better
    06/20/03 09:19:11 Toni- after several drops already
    06/20/03 09:19:19 Toni- the stock will start to think more about a
    larger corrrection
    06/20/03 09:19:31 Toni- so if you have a stock that bases after just
    reversing
    06/20/03 09:19:39 Toni- that is going to have a higher R:R
    06/20/03 09:19:49 Toni- than if you have had three waves of selling and
    are now seeing a base
    06/20/03 09:20:15 Toni- that base you would then want to be larger than
    the prior two if the prior two are of the same general length
    06/20/03 09:20:18 Toni- now..
    06/20/03 09:20:25 Toni- if you have two prior bases
    06/20/03 09:20:32 Toni- but he second base was like twice the first one
    06/20/03 09:20:42 Toni- then you can get a third base still break with
    good R:R
    06/20/03 09:20:49 Toni- because what you have are the first two moves
    06/20/03 09:20:57 Toni- equal one on a larger time frame
    06/20/03 09:21:09 Toni- so that the socnd base will be the first larger
    time frame correction
    06/20/03 09:21:12 Toni- I should post a chart
    06/20/03 09:21:19 Toni- because otherwise i'm going to lose you =)
    06/20/03 09:21:31 Toni- hold on a sec and will draw one quick
    06/20/03 09:21:42 Toni- then read over this with that chart again and
    it will be clearer
    06/20/03 09:29:43 Toni-
    http://www.tradingfrommainstreet.com/img/roomexamples/breakouts.gif
    06/20/03 09:29:58 Toni- ok... if you read over that coversation again
    with this chart it will help
     
    #112     Jun 22, 2003
  3. Brandon,

    I trade ES and I currently use Esignal for data feed and charting. I would like to know in your opinion what is the best data feed and charting for trading the ES?

    BTW, thank you for the free trial membership to TFMS!
     
    #113     Jun 22, 2003
  4. Merc

    Merc

    Hi Brandon,

    Thank you for your education, it really helps new traders.
    Can you explain the differences between trading e-minis, ETF, stocks. And who should trade them, depending on experience.
     
    #114     Jun 22, 2003
  5. Hi Brandon,

    I really liked what you said in a couple of your recent posts.



    This is so true. One of the things I have noticed about many traders who are struggling is that they are constantly in positions even when the markets are clearly choppy. I have tried to persuade a number of them to cut back on the amount of trades they do per day, and to try to stay out of a lot of the chop simply by not trading during the mid-day chop-fest period. One underlying issue that has come to the surface is that many of these traders believe that they must trade to be traders (always remain active in the markets). I have tried to convey the concept that NO position, when market conditions call for it, is a position that is just as valid as a Long or Short position when the market is moving. For newer traders who are coming from an 8-5 corporate work culture, the idea of simply standing aside for a portion of the day and not taking any trades is contrary to their sense of the traditional American work ethic. For some traders this is a difficult hurdle to overcome.

    I tell our traders that part of your JOB as a trader is to do nothing when there is nothing to be done...not to try to make something out of nothing.

    PEG LEG JOE
     
    #115     Jun 23, 2003
  6. I forgot what this thread was about. Cam someone bring me up to speed?
     
    #116     Jun 23, 2003
  7. dhsmi

    dhsmi

    For inter-stellar space exploration?:)
     
    #117     Jun 23, 2003
  8. Brandonf

    Brandonf Sponsor

    I think that if you are trading the indexes exclusively that Esignal or Tradestation are both great. If you are doing stocks I love realtick for its scanning and sorting ability, which is the best out there IMHO even if they do have some reliability issues from time to time.

    Brandon
     
    #118     Jun 23, 2003
  9. Brandonf

    Brandonf Sponsor

    From the first post Over the last month or so a surprising number of newbies have been starting to come into the market, more than anytime I can remember since early 2000. Maybe it should not be such a surprise given that the bull is back and all (This according to Barrons, Cavuto, Joe Battataglia and all those others people and groups that have performed so well over these last few years)

    What has been pretty surprising to me though has been the genuine lack of basic knowledge that many of the people coming in have. Things like trends, support, resistence, money managment, basic entry techniques, order types, choosing brokers etc. So, with that I'd like to start a thread going over the very basic aspects of trading. This will be useful for Emini or stock traders, swingtraders, daytraders etc.


    Also to pimp my site
    :p :p :p
     
    #119     Jun 23, 2003
  10. hodge podge of stuff. .A little more hodge than podge.

    Good luck
     
    #120     Jun 23, 2003