Baby Boomers aka the Worst Generation

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. jem

    jem

    yes... we can agree. I like data and I like charts. let us see if we can learn things.


    your chart is an after tax chart...
    First of all... does you chart take out inflation with reasonable multiplier... otherwise its not really showing us much. income has gone up after taxes more for wealth. That is because inflation destroys those who do not have assets that can keep pace.



    Remember the bottom 50 percent don't even pay Federal income tax and millions of them are new americans and receive assistance.

    I note... right after the 1986 Reagan tax cuts the red line hooked down a bit.

    now... I would also bet that the wealth's pre tax income has also gone up.
    I am interested to see the other percentages if they can subtract out new americans and inflation.
     
    #61     Apr 27, 2018
  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    Great. Now can we agree our economy is consumer based?

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    #62     Apr 28, 2018
  3. jem

    jem

    Please give a link to your charts... I would like to see what assumptions are being built in.
    For instance we have been told for decades we are a consumption based economy. Great... you chart does seem to show that. but... I would like to see the underlying data and choices.

    But... for now... lets accept you chart is accurate.... what is the point you are seeking to show and how does that impact whether Reagans tax cuts significantly hurt our income inequality or more important hurt the standard of living of our different income brackets?
     
    #63     Apr 28, 2018
  4. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Trying to reason with "Jem" on almost any topic, especially economics, is essentially pointless. The man is lost in his conspiracy theories and really wacky ideas on economics. For example, he thinks the US can eliminate personal income taxes and the budget will magically balance within a few years. He also thinks the key to good health is drinking diet colas and intermittent fasting but we don't need to go there except note his tendency to grab onto irrational theories or themes when his reality confuses him.

    Pointing out why his ideas are irrational will only result in him declaring you a "leftist" or similar regardless of your stated political beliefs or actions. He does it so often it's become comical.
     
    #64     Apr 28, 2018
  5. UsualName

    UsualName

    We are almost there. Now which households do the majority of the consumption, the upper income or middle and working class?
     
    #65     Apr 29, 2018
  6. Arnie

    Arnie

    You called me an idiot first in post #11.

    Please put me on ignore.
     
    #66     Apr 29, 2018
  7. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Sounds like UsualName is just a usualLib
     
    #67     Apr 29, 2018
  8. wildchild

    wildchild

    Here is a bit of life of advice for millenials, "THE WORLD OWES YOU NOTHING!"

    Stop blaming everyone else. Your days of receiving participation trophies are long over.
     
    #68     Apr 29, 2018
  9. jem

    jem

    typical straw man lies from a neo commie.

    I have stated if you hold fed money creation constant and cap spending... we will come into balance via and expanded economy causing and increase in tax revenues or or via inflation.

    so... go ahead milton explain why that statement is incorrect.
    Why do lefties always have lie about the other sides arguments?


     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2018
    #69     Apr 30, 2018
  10. jem

    jem

    usual name...
    please do tell us...
    and then explain how Reagans tax cuts hurt the 50 percent of Americans who don't pay Federal income tax more that the 99.5 percent who still pay income tax?

    any ration person would say that if the wealth is being concentrated into the to .5 percent or so...
    you should eliminate the taxes on the others...( my preferred solution)

    or or tax that upper half percent more. taxing the 99.5 of workers causes more disparity.
     
    #70     Apr 30, 2018