Ayn Rand Forecasts Economic Disaster from Collectivism & Socialism

Discussion in 'Economics' started by startraitor, May 23, 2011.

  1. plyka

    plyka

    You are quite uneducated on these topics. It seems that your views are mere regurgitations of other people instead of your own. If i were you, i would actually read up on the subject and learn a little more before spouting on. For instance, the glaring mistake in your ideas here in this post is an inability to distinguish between private individual actions and government actions.

    "the idea of self-interest and persuit of own goals no matter the consequences is the obectivist thinking."

    This is completely untrue. People should look out for their own self-interest, but they cannot violate the rights of others in the process. You cannot kill someone and steal their wallet for instance. Greenspan was working at the FED, he was using force (Rand would call it criminal force), stealing the private property of others (printing money is a tax on all current money holders) and using that stolen property for his actions.
     
    #81     May 27, 2011
  2. Greenspan was also protecting the rights of some folks, and as you point out, rights can't be trampled.

    Without a coherent, acceptable definition of "rights", Objectivism isn't even a theory, it's just an excuse to bullshit over drinks.
     
    #82     May 27, 2011
  3. So you favor a nice, modern Third World solution of every man for himself, come what may?
     
    #83     May 27, 2011
  4. And which interview was that? It was certainly not the one posted in this thread.
     
    #84     May 27, 2011
  5. piezoe

    piezoe

    Term limits may be effective in solving some problems, but could they make others worse? Perhaps politicians like quick fixes that put off real solutions for another day because they know they won't be in office when their quick fix causes a still greater problem. This is especially true, it seems, with the U.S. presidents. They know their successor is going to take the blame for the mess they created.

    In reality we already have term limits: that's what elections are about. But of course that's ineffective in practice.
     
    #85     May 27, 2011
  6. zdreg

    zdreg

    add an extra layer of clothing and stop whining.

    how many different countries as an adult have you lived in for more than 6 consecutive months?
     
    #86     May 27, 2011
  7. zdreg

    zdreg

     
    #87     May 27, 2011
  8. Max E.

    Max E.

    In my opinion, the reason politicians wont tackle serious issues is because they are looking for donors, or looking for a second term. If we had term limits, neither one would be a problem. They would not have to appease the people who donated to them, they wouldnt have to worry about tackling problems which are unpopular, and they wouldnt have to hand out "free ice cream" in order to get re-elected.

     
    #88     May 27, 2011
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    #89     Nov 14, 2011
  10. I'm no socialist, but it looks to me that the capitalists have fucked it sideways.
     
    #90     Nov 14, 2011